98duffa Posted June 16, 2015 Share Posted June 16, 2015 Hi all I did see it somewhere but can't anymore. Basically I have a black nismo that I want to look like glass, not just shine. I can see light swirls, haze, scratches etc when at certain angles. Id like to know a full list of what ill need to get tho finish, from stages and products, polishes, buffers, mits etc please help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Oggy done a brilliant job on his black Z! http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/95860-350z-2007-black-uk-nismo-two-stage-correction-detail/page__fromsearch__1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Depends entirely on what you consider "on a budget" really. Cheapest option is to distract yourself with something else and leave it as it is. Best option is expensive. Also depends on what you already have, how much correction is needed, how much time you want to spend on it, whether you want to fix the swirls or just mask them, whether you want to do this once a year or once a month, whether you'll be working by hand or by machine, and about a dozen other things based on your answers to those... In a slightly more helpful answer, you'll be wanting to wash, clay, decontaminate, deep clean, correct, refine, and then an SiO2 coating for ultimate shine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Only fair you spend on detailing your car what your misses spends on glamming herself, and I find the occasional new handbag to my misses for the odd little overspend on the car always has the desired effect Oh, and if you post up your location I'm sure someone on here will be able to recommend a detailer not far from you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98duffa Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'll be doing it every couple of months, and to get rid of swirls permanently. Without a machine if its possible to get I like glass. My idea was to wash it with a mcguires gold wash, dry with a microfibre, clay bar the car, then use the poorboy dark glaze and wax kit in the order specified. And then (if needed) as I dont know if I need to after that kit. Wax it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98duffa Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Good plan based in Warrington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'll be doing it every couple of months, and to get rid of swirls permanently. Without a machine if its possible to get I like glass. My idea was to wash it with a mcguires gold wash, dry with a microfibre, clay bar the car, then use the poorboy dark glaze and wax kit in the order specified. And then (if needed) as I dont know if I need to after that kit. Wax it Firstly, yes you need to wax over Black Hole, it's not at all durable on it's own. That said, you simply won't get a glass like finish by hand or with a glaze and wax combination. You can improve the finish by hand, by you won't get the look that you're after. This leaves you with a couple of choices; Compromise - get the best finish you can by hand, use the glaze to hide the rest and wax. This will give you a deeper, wetter look rather than the glassy look you're after though. Spend more - buy a machine polisher, spend out on a coating. Much more expensive, but you'll only be doing it once a year and you'll get that glassy look you're after. Pay someone else to do the groundwork - take it to a detailer, they will correct it for you and then you can choose between a wax or a coating depending on what you're willing to spend. If you get the detailer to apply the coating too,you'll get the glassy finish you're after and if they use adecent coating it won't need doing again or 2 years or more. Alternatively you can then apply a wax to keep the costs down a bit. However, despite it likely being a one off cost, good detailers aren't cheap (except Ricey, he's a bargain!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Cheapest option might be to stump up for the initial correction professionally then learn how to maintain it safely. It's concieveable you could spend more money (and lots more time) doing/learning the correction yourself than getting a pro to do it. Also a good detailer will do a fabulous job first time! Edit: ilgoikal beat me to it! Edited June 17, 2015 by SuperStu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamic Turtle Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Always surprised about how time consuming and expensive detailing can be. I think just regular careful washing is the best approach then do the full heavy wax pornstar job once a year, ideally before winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Always surprised about how time consuming and expensive detailing can be. I think just regular careful washing is the best approach then do the full heavy wax pornstar job once a year, ideally before winter. pornstar job :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98duffa Posted June 17, 2015 Author Share Posted June 17, 2015 Does anyone know a superb pro then or as good as member near to Warrington, north west. Thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Does anyone know a superb pro then or as good as member near to Warrington, north west. Thanks guys Ricey is just down the road for Warrington isn't he? There's loads of examples of work on the website and on here. http://www.revolveautomotiveltd.com/valeting-detailing/ http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/220-revolve-automotive-ltd/ Defo worth a PM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 He's very good value for what he does too, is Ricey. Give the Mrs any other detailer's price first then show her how much you're saving by going to him instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veilside z Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Get the Mrs to give you it as a early xmas present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Get the Mrs to give you it as a early xmas present. ... And then get the car detailed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharkmatt Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 (edited) I've found that Gtechniq P1 polish does a good job of removing swirls (which to my understanding are the main cause of dull paint) when used by hand. It won't remove heavier scratches by hand though. I've never tried it with a machine but I'd imagine it would be even more effective. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Edited June 18, 2015 by sharkmatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98duffa Posted June 18, 2015 Author Share Posted June 18, 2015 Thanks all. Fantastic help as per Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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