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Temporary toy for the summer - Porsche Cayman S


Adrian@TORQEN

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Some of you have seen my comments already regarding the crappy Porsche Cayman S, but for the others that have missed it, here is the story.

 

I've noticed some smoke puffs when starting the car from cold and also the oil top up light came on one day. For the guys that don't know, the Cayman doesn't have a stick, it's all electronic, it tells you the level before you start the car. As I had warranty, I thought it's a good opportunity to take it to a specialist to inspect it.

 

Took the car to RPM Tehnik and last Friday got this email back from them:

 

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Craig is a very nice guy and the garage is a dream place to be, all the nicest possible models of Porsche are there in they're show room, from classics to competition cars.

 

As they were extremely busy, I took the car to http://www.911sbd.com as recommended by my friend Taras @ RT-Performance, where the car is at the moment. We've done another boroscope test and found out cylinder 5 and 6 scored, but other have started too, very light marks at the moment.

 

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In order for the warranty company to accept the claim, although we can clearly see the bore scoring in the photos and the reports from both garages, they've asked to have the engine cracked open so they can inspect what has caused it. Obviously, they're trying to delay or avoid payment.

 

They've started on the engine today, removed it and hope to have it opened for inspection tomorrow. Below some photos I've taken today:

 

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What really impressed me today, in a bad way, it's the amount of rust on that engine!!! Shocking!

 

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I mean look at the fuel rails!!!

 

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I know UK is famous for humidity, but never seen so much rust and corrosion on a 9 years old car before! It's like it's been sitting in a lake for few years. Why is Porsche using so cheap materials I don't know, big disappointment for me.

 

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Meanwhile, the 370z is nearly ready to be fully resprayed and sold! Fitted the new steering wheel today with the red stitching, the interior looks awesome now!

 

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I'm off abroad for a few days, will update as soon as I hear from the Porsche guys.

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I'm surprised at the condition of that Porsche engine too.

If it had been sitting in a salvage yard exposed to the elements for 9 years then I'd expect that but just being pulled out of the engine bay I wouldn't have thought it would be that bad. :scare:

 

Good luck with it Adrian and hope you get it all done under warranty. ;)

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The bore scoring sucks dude, I will be taking a look at mine soon :blush:

 

But mine thankfully hasn't used a drip of oil in the last 5kmiles including a ring trip & trackdays, nor are my engine parts or underside corroded, suppose thats the difference between garaged & non garaged cars :dry:

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That moment when you watch Ekona laying its eggs :lol:

 

Went there, spent about 1 hour, looked at all possible problems that you can see without taking the engine apart, checked service history, everything appeared to be spot on. No accidents, no body problems, wheels, brakes, engine noise perfect.

 

Darren took it for a drive with the previous owner, again, all perfect. What else can you do on spot without taking it to a specialist? Start stripping the interior and get to look at the engine, do a boroscope? You're talking through your rear radio now :lol:

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That moment when you watch Ekona laying its eggs :lol:

 

Went there, spent about 1 hour, looked at all possible problems that you can see without taking the engine apart, checked service history, everything appeared to be spot on. No accidents, no body problems, wheels, brakes, engine noise perfect.

 

Darren took it for a drive with the previous owner, again, all perfect. What else can you do on spot without taking it to a specialist? Start stripping the interior and get to look at the engine, do a boroscope? You're talking through your rear radio now :lol:

 

Exactly, when potentially buying a sub £20k car is it really worth getting this done on every viewing??? it would be crazy, if you went to look at 3cars you would have already spent over £1000 before purchasing.

 

Has anyone done this when buying a 350 or 370? I doubt it very much

 

Unfortunately it's just one of those gambles you take when buying an older car, it will either be a cheap fun summer car or the complete opposite :headhurt:

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You ALWAYS do a boroscope inspection on every single M96/M97 engined car you intend to buy. If you spend a few hundred quid across multiple cars, then that's better than buying a car that suddenly needs £7K worth of work a couple of weeks after you bought it. You don't do it on every car you see, only the one you intend to buy.

 

You can only do so much on a visual inspection like you say, which is why you check everything as much as you possibly can and THEN you get the boroscope or full inspection (depending on your own mechanical knowledge) done on the car before you hand over a penny. I'm not trying to be an arse here, or do the old I told you so, I'm merely stating common knowledge that absolutely every single person with knowledge of these cars will tell you to do. I've seen so many people across so many forums take their cars outside of the big names to try and save a few quid, only to find the repair was done on the cheap to low standards and with only a few of the bits that needed replacing doing.

 

Again, I'm not saying that's what's going to happen here, and I'm actually really curious to see what does get changed and what liners are used as it would be great to know of somewhere more local to me that I could use for when I buy my next Porker. I really want this to be a success, but to imply that I don't know what I'm talking about and that I'm talking sh*t just isn't fair or true. You knew the history of these engines before you bought the car, and you didn't do what everyone tells you you should do. You took a gamble and sadly you got caught out, and I feel sorry for you, I really do. It's a beautiful car and it deserves to be up and running on the road soon. :)

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This is the exact reason I bought the M6 instead of a 911. I simply couldn't afford to fix it if it went wrong.

 

The rust on the engine looks massively excessive. Has one or more of the previous owners lived by the sea? Or in it?

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The rust on the engine looks massively excessive. Has one or more of the previous owners lived by the sea? Or in it?

 

Twas my thought, my old Onevia went from pretty clean to ZOMG in the space of about 12 months when it moved from Cambridge to Aberdeen.

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I don't think there has been a Cayman thread were Dan hasn't mentioned getting someone to check this before buying. Either way I am gutted for you mate. My car is going into a specialist tomorrow morning to make sure there isn't any nasty surprises before my warranty runs out.

 

Hope the warranty sorts most of the bill mate :thumbs:

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