Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 If you're trying to turn this into one of those daft pun threads, you're barking up the wrong tree, you sap! However, a good pun thread is always poplar. Folks pine when they don't get one for a while, as they really spruce the place up. It's fir our own good though that we don't get too many, as if we did someone would go over the top and call the copse. That's the real root of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Excellent write up there. I'm going to wait for the oil to run out first though Interesting thread But there in above, imho, lies the killer blow to anything electric, whilst there is oil in the ground and companies are making billions of pounds worth of profit, everything else is doomed. The only way to make ev's attractive at present is by subsidies, what happens when that stops. What happens when/if the government, like diesel, realises people are actually buying these and they are loosing revenue from fuels, congestion charges etc They need the revenue, no two ways about it. Least we not forget where most of our electricity comes from, burning fossil fuel. 46% gas, 31% coal fired, roughly only 5% comes from renewables. I am sure some people think electricity is magic and it just "happens". Factor in the mining necessary for precious metals needed for the batteries (and disposal when dead) and to me it just doesnt add up that these vehicles are as environmentally friendly as a lot think. Edited April 16, 2015 by Jetpilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't think people buy them for the environment, they do it to save money. No-one actually cares about the environment these days, not when we're still in a weak economy. My local Tesla dealer is in Crawley, I'll arrange a test drive for next week assuming I'm free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I don't think people buy them for the environmet Probably very true, but they would have you believe they do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 WARNING SCANDO EV PARKING PORN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wow, he parked like a c*nt dot com. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) I think I'm just too stupid to explain why Battery EVs are the future …. I think Elon Musk the man NASA trusts to deliver supplies to the International Space Station, and to build the launch platform for a planned mission to Mars along side Boeing (backed up with $6 billion of american tax payer cash), is a better candidate... http://www.wsj.com/a...acts-1410904245 Here is Q&A session he did at the Detroit (motorcity) motor show earlier this year....Some poor journalist was brave enough to challenge him about hydrogen fuel cells...You can almost see he is having to bite his tongue with every breath and in his mind this is what he is thinking.. The fun starts at about 10 minutes in... https://youtu.be/Y_e7rA4fBAo?t=10m13s Edited April 16, 2015 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wow, he parked like a c*nt dot com. It was more about 30 of them in a row 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No ones disputing they're not the future. I for one am just saying they're aren't for everyone, especially petrol heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Shock news, man selling one product doesn't think another product is any good I don't disagree with him though, I don't think hydrogen fuel cells are the future either. I think Musk is a very, very good speaker and debater though, and that makes him an excellent salesman. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 (edited) Shock news, man selling one product doesn't think another product is any good I don't disagree with him though, I don't think hydrogen fuel cells are the future either. I think Musk is a very, very good speaker and debater though, and that makes him an excellent salesman. I think you need to be a bit more than just a good salesman to persuade NASA to part with $2 billion of US taxpayers money!! This guy's achievements make Steve Jobs look like a underachieving delinquent and certainly makes me feel like I've rather wasted my life Though I'm sure he didn't tell NASA that they named their rocket after the Millennium Falcon in their grant bid.....Sometimes I really wish I took up the option to study physics/engineering at Cambridge all those years back https://youtu.be/OeW0E-YMKjo?t=2m21s Edited April 16, 2015 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wasting your wife is bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 I think you need to be a bit more than just a good salesman to persuade NASA to part with $2 billion of US taxpayers money!! Quite right, I think you need a f*cking great big brown envelope as well to achieve that. In case you're reading Elon, I'm only joking. Probably. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wasting your wife is bad Only a waste if you don't share her 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted April 16, 2015 Author Share Posted April 16, 2015 Wasting your wife is bad ....No one tell on me now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 I think I'm just too stupid to explainin why Battery EVs are the future …. I think Elon Musk the man NASA trusts to deliver supplies to the International Space Station, and to build the launch platform for a planned mission to Mars along side Boeing (backed up with $6 billion of american tax payer cash), is a better candidate... http://www.wsj.com/a...acts-1410904245 Here is Q&A session he did at the Detroit (motorcity) motor show earlier this year....Some poor journalist was brave enough to challenge him about hydrogen fuel cells...You can almost see he is having to bite his tongue with every breath and in his mind this is what he is thinking.. The fun starts at about 10 minutes in... https://youtu.be/Y_e7rA4fBAo?t=10m13s Ok, so your hook, line and sinker on battery ev's, no problem with that Sadly a video clip from obviously an Incredibily Intelligent man, who has a vested Interest isnt going to sway me. Your still using fossil fuels Your still harming the environment Your still producing co2 And whilst ever we have oil In the ground and large reserves are still being found, anything else will be a non starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 ...everything else will be a non starter Do you mean for you? Or as a viable product for the marketplace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 ...everything else will be a non starter Do you mean for you? Or as a viable product for the marketplace? As a successor to ich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 No ones disputing they're not the future. I for one am just saying they're aren't for everyone, especially petrol heads. Of course they are if you commute in one during the week and to the shops with the family, then spend the cash you saved on your weekend toy Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Double post Edited April 17, 2015 by spursmaddave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) And there's more... Edited April 17, 2015 by spursmaddave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Sorry, missed that the first three times, say it again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 And there's more... Still couldn't do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 Too slow guys.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy_Baton Posted April 17, 2015 Share Posted April 17, 2015 (edited) Seems a good thread to leave this chart The future of the auto industry can be boiled down to one chart. http://jalopnik.com/...8fk9g,pexi6me2k Edited April 17, 2015 by Randy_Baton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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