glrnet Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Somewhat squashes my theory then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Producers at the Beeb have been told to make savings across the board in 2015 of at least between 10% to 25% on production costs on ALL programs. Maybe Clarkson's dinner was one of those cuts. Not everything in TV is black and white now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 TG makes a billion times more money than it costs to make. It's probably the most profitable show on the whole BBC. If anything was ring fenced from cuts, it would be TG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 TG makes a billion times more money than it costs to make. It's probably the most profitable show on the whole BBC. If anything was ring fenced from cuts, it would be TG. Plus all the merchandise: DVD's/books/board games etc and selling makers rights to other countries. Definitely the most profitable show on the BBC I'd wager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Second only to Dr Who, I seem to recall. I can't remember the source though, so that might be rubbish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 TG makes a billion times more money than it costs to make. It's probably the most profitable show on the whole BBC. If anything was ring fenced from cuts, it would be TG. Plus all the merchandise: DVD's/books/board games etc and selling makers rights to other countries. Definitely the most profitable show on the BBC I'd wager. Its irrelevant, what the program makes in revenue, TG is estimated to make £160 mill PA for Auntie Beeb, so to be PC it cannot be treated any different to any other program produced by them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 What has being PC got to do with it? Of course they can choose where to plough their money and what to make sure stays untouched, BBC Worldwide is there specifically to turn a profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 They cannot be seen under the new BBC charter to favor one program over another...! The only way around this is to use an outside Production Company which TG was doing until the BBC decided to take it back in house..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) This is brilliant that the other TV networks are taking the pi55 out of the Clarkson suspended fiasco, Channel 4 news rocked up at his house with a steak sandwich. Fifth Gear posted a promo saying 'no producers were harmed in the making of this episode' it kinda puts the whole thing in to perspective, an over reaction by the Beeb Edited March 12, 2015 by WhackyWill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 They cannot be seen under the new BBC charter to favor one program over another...! And back in the real world... Come on Will, I know you're not that naive to believe that. Of course they're allowed to favour one program over another, else you'd end up with every programme having the same budget. Antiques Roadshow does not have to have as much priority as EastEnders, for example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 And back in the real world... Come on Will, I know you're not that naive to believe that. Of course they're allowed to favour one program over another, else you'd end up with every programme having the same budget. Antiques Roadshow does not have to have as much priority as EastEnders, for example. Surely, if anything, you'd end up with all 7 (?) channels showing the same one programme 24 hours a day. Overlooking budgets for a moment, if there's no favouring of programmes then they'd have to show the same programme at prime time as they would during the day. And they can't air that one programme on the more popular BBC1 whilst another gets shown on one of the less popular channels.... Everything the BBC does, everything, is based on favouring it's programmes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 They cannot be seen under the new BBC charter to favor one program over another...! And back in the real world... Come on Will, I know you're not that naive to believe that. Of course they're allowed to favour one program over another, else you'd end up with every programme having the same budget. Antiques Roadshow does not have to have as much priority as EastEnders, for example. Just saying how it works in 2015.. Say for example your Production budget for your programmer was £1 mill in 2014. New budget is set at £700k, so as producer you have a meeting with your production Team and you all agree it cannot be made for that, so you go back to the board cap in hand and after many many meetings with them they may at their discretion increase your budget or reduce the number of shows..Does that sound familiar..reduce the number of shows..!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) And back in the real world... Come on Will, I know you're not that naive to believe that. Of course they're allowed to favour one program over another, else you'd end up with every programme having the same budget. Antiques Roadshow does not have to have as much priority as EastEnders, for example. Surely, if anything, you'd end up with all 7 (?) channels showing the same one programme 24 hours a day. Overlooking budgets for a moment, if there's no favouring of programmes then they'd have to show the same programme at prime time as they would during the day. And they can't air that one programme on the more popular BBC1 whilst another gets shown on one of the less popular channels.... Everything the BBC does, everything, is based on favouring it's programmes. Everything the BBC does is done on COST..!!!! :scare: Edited March 12, 2015 by WhackyWill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 Except TG makes millions more than it costs, so they don't have to go back and ask for more money and even if they do, the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 (edited) Every the BBC does is done on COST..!!!! :scare: Quite. So it's going to favour those programmes which actually make money then isn't it?! Edited March 12, 2015 by ilogikal1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Every the BBC does is done on COST..!!!! :scare: Quite. So it's going to favour those programmes which actually make money then isn't it?! No not at all, the BBC does not need to schedule its programes to attract advertising revenue like Commercial Channels have to. We pay for it, and the BBC has to make major cuts over the next 3 years, as any increase in the TV licence had been put back. Yes the revenue from TG goes back into the overall "pot"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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glrnet Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 This is brilliant that the other TV networks are taking the pi55 out of the Clarkson suspended fiasco, Channel 4 news rocked up at his house with a steak sandwich. Fifth Gear posted a promo saying 'no producers were harmed in the making of this episode' it kinda puts the whole thing in to perspective, an over reaction by the Beeb Surely, until the facts are known who knows if it's an over reaction or not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 This is brilliant that the other TV networks are taking the pi55 out of the Clarkson suspended fiasco, Channel 4 news rocked up at his house with a steak sandwich. Fifth Gear posted a promo saying 'no producers were harmed in the making of this episode' it kinda puts the whole thing in to perspective, an over reaction by the Beeb Surely, until the facts are known who knows if it's an over reaction or not He shouted at a few people, because he had just done a 14 hour day in snow and slush which didn't go very well, got to the "boarding house" they had been booked into to be confronted by a few Mum's Dad's and kids wanting "selfies" with him, then discovered the producer had not bothered to arrange any hot food for them. I would also be pi55ed of with this..Nobody got hit..it was a shouting match and handbags at dawn..!! :surrender: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 He shouted at a few people, because he had just done a 14 hour day in snow and slush which didn't go very well, got to the "boarding house" they had been booked into to be confronted by a few Mum's Dad's and kids wanting "selfies" with him, then discovered the producer had not bothered to arrange any hot food for them. I would also be pi55ed of with this..Nobody got hit..it was a shouting match and handbags at dawn..!! :surrender: I think anyone would be p!$$ed at that ... I certainly would 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 One last try. Yes the revenue from TG goes back into the overall "pot"... So if Top Gear earns the BBC TG is estimated to make £160 mill PA for Auntie Beeb It's going to favoured over, say, a Jack Whitehall "sitcom" that aired twice on BBC Three at 3am on a Wednesday. Regardless of what the BBC Charter says. Any business is going to favour profitable products over less profitable products. Including the BBC. They're not just going to chuck away £160m (or whatever it actually is) for the sake of "appearing PC". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 One last try. Yes the revenue from TG goes back into the overall "pot"... So if Top Gear earns the BBC TG is estimated to make £160 mill PA for Auntie Beeb It's going to favoured over, say, a Jack Whitehall "sitcom" that aired twice on BBC Three at 3am on a Wednesday. Regardless of what the BBC Charter says. Any business is going to favour profitable products over less profitable products. Including the BBC. They're not just going to chuck away £160m (or whatever it actually is) for the sake of "appearing PC". OK whatever you say..Take it up with the DG that's (The Director General) . I'm going to bed..!!! :surrender: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted March 12, 2015 Share Posted March 12, 2015 shame bbc sold an entire series to 214 channels shame they wont make the contract and have to pay compensation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 12, 2015 Author Share Posted March 12, 2015 Before I tuck in for the night and dream of Top Gear..Have a read of this folks..!! http://www.theguardian.com/media/2015/mar/11/bbc-jeremy-clarkson-suspension-top-gear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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