Uh oh... me again, zed is off the road, opinions needed! ZMANALEX I may need parts!

[MCook]

Car was down at Mission Motorsport, getting my compression arms/rods fitted which was hopefully going to solve my knocking noise which I have had since buying the car....

 

I got down there as they were closing, thinking it should be done (only a 2 hour it job), they were getting it back on the ramp and invited me in to look at there findings.

 

This is not a picture of mine but best picture I could find to describe my scenario..

 

 

He grabbed the wheel and was able to move it back and forth with ease, all the play was in the bolt circled. The bolt was done up fully and had it pin in place. It was freely moving in the hole.

 

What seems to have happened is the old compression rod had lost all its bushing until it was just a steel cone like thing, steel on aluminium.. from what he was saying I'm guessing the socket has just been eroded/hollowed out????

 

They have said that the whole (not sure what it is called) thing that holds the bearing/abs sensor/thing that all the arms are connected to needs replacing. knuckle? is that the right word?

 

both sides were loose, drivers side being the worst. He did not advise driving it as under heavy breaking it could go badly wrong.

 

They have given me a diesel corsa free of charge in the mean time.

 

any expert opinions are welcome!!! He asked if I wanted the garage to sort all the parts needed out or if I wanted to do my research and get back to him, just want some ideas before paying out.

[Greg Warnes]

As long as there is not too much damage in the hub carrier, you may get away with replacing the compression arm/cone (AKA Banana bar/arm)

[Ekona]

Agreed. Just get them to sort while it's there, I would.

[KyleR]

I have a compression arm bush here if the garage thinks you need one

[MCook]

 

those are what I had installed today, do they not already have the bushing on them? Can someone post a picky of what you mean, is it a separate bush?

[MITZ@CougarStore]

Did they fit the cones again or are they still on the old arms, we sell them here - http://cougarstore.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_9&products_id=219

[MCook]

Did they fit the cones again or are they still on the old arms, we sell them here - http://cougarstore.c...products_id=219

 

The cones were on the old arms and were rock solid, do the cones come separate...? I can't remember now if they were already on my arms..

[MITZ@CougarStore]

They can be separated from the old arms or you can buy new ones like the ones listed...

[Azure350z]

Sounds like they haven't installed the cones. You can pull the cones off the old arms if with a bearing pull if you are careful or you can buy new from a few of the traders on here, they are cheap enough. I wouldn't drive the car without the cones being fitted though.

 

Honestly can't think of anything else it could be.

[MCook]

Sounds like they haven't installed the cones. You can pull the cones off the old arms if with a bearing pull if you are careful or you can buy new from a few of the traders on here, they are cheap enough. I wouldn't drive the car without the cones being fitted though.

 

Honestly can't think of anything else it could be.

 

Does sound that way, will give them a call tomorrow to see if they can get the old cones off, thought they would have known that really....

[Renegade]

If that is a picture of the actual arms you had fitted,it looks like new cones are on.

[MCook]

If that is a picture of the actual arms you had fitted,it looks like new cones are on.

 

Nope, did not get a picture, just a screenshot from a video.

[KyleR]

 

those are what I had installed today, do they not already have the bushing on them? Can someone post a picky of what you mean, is it a separate bush?

 

They do

[MCook]

Definitely in need of some new cones! who can deliver the quickest?!

 

When the car was on the ground the bolts thread was visible, a good few centimetres from where it should be sitting flush against the hub carrier.

[SHEZZA]

Try Ewen at Clark Motorsport for next day delivery , you'll get them for Saturday I reckon.

[MCook]

Sorted the problem, the garage had 'forgotten' to put the bushing cones back on the new arms.

 

I went to sed garage with new cones and explained that he had not fitted them, he even showed me my old arms with the cones still on. He was adamant that he had put the cones on?!! (He was Japanese and english not his first language) He wanted to replace the hub carriers both sides which would not be cheap.

 

I jacked the car up today and put the cones in myself, he had put 2 washers on each side to supplement the gap caused by the missing cones. It was too late for one of my arms as the bushing had split on the drivers side, grease everywhere!

 

Car drives amazingly now, absolutely flat and no knocking at all, will see how long the damaged bush lasts....

[Greg Warnes]

Glad you got it sorted, was that mission Motorsport on the A32 Fareham?

[WINKJ]

Good god, you never have any luck mcook!!! Haha

[MCook]

Glad you got it sorted, was that mission Motorsport on the A32 Fareham?

 

It was indeed, they are supposedly a Japanese car 'specialist' and had worked on many 350z's....

[MCook]

Good god, you never have any luck mcook!!! Haha

 

Tell me about it! From now on I will be doing the work myself, or traveling to horsham!

[SHEZZA]

Sorted the problem, the garage had 'forgotten' to put the bushing cones back on the new arms.

 

I went to sed garage with new cones and explained that he had not fitted them, he even showed me my old arms with the cones still on. He was adamant that he had put the cones on?!! (He was Japanese and english not his first language) He wanted to replace the hub carriers both sides which would not be cheap.

 

I jacked the car up today and put the cones in myself, he had put 2 washers on each side to supplement the gap caused by the missing cones. It was too late for one of my arms as the bushing had split on the drivers side, grease everywhere!

 

Car drives amazingly now, absolutely flat and no knocking at all, will see how long the damaged bush lasts....

 

So have they damaged the seal on the ball joint of a brand new arm from not fitting the cones !?

Edited February 26, 2015 by SHEZZA

[jimboy2]

Everytime I drive past that place I wonder how on earth it's still going. Doesn't look like a specialist place to me. Go to horsham or abbey next!

Edited February 26, 2015 by jimboy2

[MCook]

Sorted the problem, the garage had 'forgotten' to put the bushing cones back on the new arms.

 

I went to sed garage with new cones and explained that he had not fitted them, he even showed me my old arms with the cones still on. He was adamant that he had put the cones on?!! (He was Japanese and english not his first language) He wanted to replace the hub carriers both sides which would not be cheap.

 

I jacked the car up today and put the cones in myself, he had put 2 washers on each side to supplement the gap caused by the missing cones. It was too late for one of my arms as the bushing had split on the drivers side, grease everywhere!

 

Car drives amazingly now, absolutely flat and no knocking at all, will see how long the damaged bush lasts....

 

So have they damaged the seal on the ball joint of a brand new arm from not fitting the cones !?

 

They have indeed

[MCook]

Everytime I drive past that place I wonder how on earth it's still going. Doesn't look like a specialist place to me. Go to horsham or abbey next!

 

The owner Kenny Wan has a brand new gtr sat in that little garage! His wife owns LJ'S Chinese and Jo Jo's Gelato in Fareham!

[ilogikal1]

So have they damaged the seal on the ball joint of a brand new arm from not fitting the cones !?

They have indeed

 

And you're just accepting this? The very least they should be doing is supplying a brand new arm, even if it's then fitted by a competent mechanic elsewhere!

Edited February 27, 2015 by ilogikal1