Chris Wiltshire Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 So after topping up a small amount earlier with the shell performance unleaded the zed began misfiring, idling rough, almost cutting out once you go past 2000k revs... Basically had to nurse it to my local tesco garage, brimmed the tank and now it's back to normal! Can only think it's dodgey fuel. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 So you took your car back to Shell, informed them of the issue, showed them your receipt and asked for a refund? If you topped up with a small amount, unless it was pure water you put in then I'm loathe to believe the fuel was the problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wiltshire Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker1986 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. Well that's a bit rude, presumably you know how to spell garage though as you got it right in the first post? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. He's an acquired taste 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. Well that's a bit rude, presumably you know how to spell garage though as you got it right in the first post? Don't give Black Bettie's new owner a hard time Hawkyr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawker1986 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. Well that's a bit rude, presumably you know how to spell garage though as you got it right in the first post? Don't give Black Bettie's new owner a hard time Hawkyr Im just saying theres no need to be rude about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 My point was that if you've only brimmed the tank with a few litres, then you're going to have to have done another 200 miles before you get to that fuel, if we assume they don't mix. If they do, which of course they would, then that fuel would've had to have been near enough water to have screwed your Zed that badly. And even if we assume all that was true, then you should've told the garage to not only get a refund, and to protect yourself in case you've had serious engine damage, but also to protect other motorists from the same fate. To not do so is a tad negligent, if you want me to be honest. So how empty were you? How much did you put in? How far did you go before you had issues? You were quick to jump both to a conclusion as well as on my back, but there's still questions to be answered here I think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 And I wasn't being rude. Youd know if I was being rude, trust me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Zed was spot on all day. Fuelled up at the garadge and the problems began. Didn't want to drive back as I was nursing it to a teaco garadge I used regularly, filled up and the problems dissapeared. Deffinatly a fuel problem from my experience.. Sounds like someone's pi**ed on your bonfire recently though.. Well that's a bit rude, presumably you know how to spell garage though as you got it right in the first post? Don't give Black Bettie's new owner a hard time Hawkyr Im just saying theres no need to be rude about it Rude about what ..?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Blocked vent in the cap which sorted itself out after being taken off and put back on at the tesco ?.......... just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 How low did you let the fuel get before you gave it a little top up from Shell? Was the light on? Just wondering if maybe the filter picked up some crud from the bottom of the tank but since cleared itself after being driven & then properly fueled up. Also hope you're only using Super Unleaded. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wiltshire Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ok well I appreciate if Ekona wasnt being rude, just came across as if I don't know what I'm doing.. Sorry if I came across as a rude person. Yes I'm new to owning a zed but far from being a noob regarding Motors etc Anyway just trying to help if someone is based around that area then it may be a good idea to use a different garage for a bit. Only ever use high octane fuel preferably tesco momentum but this is hard to find over in Brecon. Well where I was it was. Will let the garage know in the morning.. yes garage without the "d" (hawker).. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 From what I'm making out from your original post, You filled up at shell. Noticed car started running @*!#. So went and topped up at tesco? What we need to know is - were you empty when you filled up at shell? -how much did you fill up with at shell? -how far did you drive before you filled up at tesco? I only ask because if you filled up a full tank at shell, and then drove straight to tesco and topped up, that wouldn't really make much difference. #teamtarmac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 From what I'm making out from your original post, You filled up at shell. Noticed car started running @*!#. So went and topped up at tesco? I read it as he put a small amount in at Shell, noticed it running @*!#, then filled at Tesco. But regardless... What we need to know is - were you empty when you filled up at shell? -how much did you fill up with at shell? -how far did you drive before you filled up at tesco? That. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wiltshire Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 Sure, Wasn't empty, pretty sure it was on the second line. Topped up £15 at shell, barely drove a few miles as we pulled up for refreshments. Fired the zed back up and hit the road, into 3rd and then started to chug real bad and missing. Car was ok if it was once in 6th gear going at 2000k but anything more and it would play up. Idle was all over the place. Pretty sure it had a funny smell too. Loss of power. Drove about 30miles steadily to the tesco garage, topped up £47 which brimmed the tank. After a few mins idling the zed was back to normal, responsive, clean and crisp. It's been faultless apart from that and a great pleasure to drive. I've put about £300 of fuel in the last 6 weeks and all has been good apart from the shell top up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 So, you added ~12 litres of Shell fuel to ~20litres of whatever was in the tank already and you think that this was enough to make it run rough after just "a few miles"? To be honest, that brings us back to; If you topped up with a small amount, unless it was pure water you put in then I'm loathe to believe the fuel was the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wiltshire Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Good point, but surely 12 litres of contaminated fuel would make a difference especially if the existing amount of original fuel is small. If that's the case we could throw in 70 litres of petrol and 10litres of water to save money as there wouldnt be a difference. That's on a UK 80l tank. Liquids will mix quickly in my eyes especially on the roads in Brecon. Edited February 9, 2015 by Chris Wiltshire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 Possibly yes, but the fuel would have to have been of the most horrendous quality for it to do that, and if it was you can be sure that you wouldn't have been the only person suffering there that day. Local news might even have picked it up, especially if it was the super unleaded that was shot and people in their expensive motors filling the tank right up where having their engines destroyed. If you had in your tank 70L of decent fuel and then put in 10L of, say, 87RON fuel, then I don't think you'd notice any difference. That's why I said it would've had to have been near enough water for it to suddenly become that catastrophic to run. When it was running badly, did it throw any CELs at all? Did you at any point pull over, stop the engine, then restart again? How quickly after you filled up at Tesco did the car then become responsive again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 The Shell pump you used wasn't coloured black was it? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 What was the weather like? Symptoms you've described match what you would get if you MAF got wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 And I wasn't being rude. Youd know if I was being rude, trust me. yea he turns in to a Class A prick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 not once have i seen a post of him saying if his shell fuel was v power or not? or even if his tesco was momentum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wiltshire Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share Posted February 9, 2015 StevoD, if you read the previous posts properly I've said that I only use the high octane fuel preferably Momentum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 9, 2015 Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Good point, but surely 12 litres of contaminated fuel would make a difference especially if the existing amount of original fuel is small. If that's the case we could throw in 70 litres of petrol and 10litres of water to save money as there wouldnt be a difference. That's on a UK 80l tank. Liquids will mix quickly in my eyes especially on the roads in Brecon. still cant see it saying your shell fuel was vpower Edit multi quote hasnt worked :s Edited February 9, 2015 by StevoD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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