buckland Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 Hi Guys, Recently changed the clutch in my 350z but now experiencing 'juddering' when pulling away in first gear. Think I made the mistake of not changing the fly wheel as well. Should both be changed at the same time? Have new flywheel now as well, just hoping It has not damaged the new clutch in anyway. Thanks Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 you could always try asking the supplier of your clutch about a warranty claim. I would`nt want to strip it all down and replace the flywheel and then put the old clutch back that you know is juddering. At least fit a new center plate if you have to buy it yourself mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bradders- Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 i wont even go into the troubles i had lol, but you should really have done the both at the same time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckland Posted February 5, 2015 Author Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yeah I realise now that I should have done both together. What trouble did you have with yours bradders? I have both a clutch kit spare, and a fly wheel so might have to strip it down again and see if there is any visible damage. I unsure if it was the clutch or the fly wheel causing the juddering? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 What brand of clutch kit did you fit? What year and model is your 350? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckland Posted February 6, 2015 Author Share Posted February 6, 2015 I bought an Exedy clutch kit off a company called techniclutch. I have 2004 Model, Azure Blue GT model Do you think I need to change the flywheel ASAP? Thanks for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I think that you may have answered your own question here. Techniclutch is a trading name for NCD (National Clutch Distributors) Unfortunately they are known for supplying cheaper non compatible Exedy parts in Exedy boxes Exedy UK are aware of this practice, however they appear to be reluctant to get involved. The only way to know for sure is to compare the part numbers stamped on you old clutch kit with the one fitted as the parts look similar. I have these numbers saved some where, and as you will have guessed by now, I have had similar issues with NCD. Always good practice to swop the fly at the same time as the clutch, however I do not think that is your issue. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen@Clark Motorsport Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 As Alex says, theres a reason why they can sell their Exedy kits so cheaply. They are not the same as others are supplying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) As Alex says, theres a reason why they can sell their Exedy kits so cheaply. They are not the same as others are supplying Alsways wise to buy from a registered genuine company that is authorised to sell said product, otherwise it will just come back to bite you in the ass Edited February 6, 2015 by grundy225 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Authorised resellers have the approval of the manufacturers, without that you won't get a warranty. Most of the traders on here have that, so I'd use one of them for sure when you replace it (Tarmac Sportz, Clarke motorsport and cougar store are definitely authorised resellers ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Buy cheaper Buy twice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereboy Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 As above. Lesson learnt the hard way I'm afraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Authorised resellers have the approval of the manufacturers, without that you won't get a warranty. Most of the traders on here have that, so I'd use one of them for sure when you replace it (Tarmac Sportz, Clarke motorsport and cougar store are definitely authorised resellers ) Just to be a pedantic PITA (I know, me?!), but that wouldn't matter here as the SOGA would override any manufacturer warranty at this point. Really, they're pretty much useless as your contract is with the person who sold it to you, not who made it. If it's non-compatible, then you are due a refund. But yes, I would only ever buy parts from a reputable dealer in this country: You only get bitten once to learn from that mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Authorised resellers have the approval of the manufacturers, without that you won't get a warranty. Most of the traders on here have that, so I'd use one of them for sure when you replace it (Tarmac Sportz, Clarke motorsport and cougar store are definitely authorised resellers ) Just to be a pedantic PITA (I know, me?!), but that wouldn't matter here as the SOGA would override any manufacturer warranty at this point. Really, they're pretty much useless as your contract is with the person who sold it to you, not who made it. If it's non-compatible, then you are due a refund. But yes, I would only ever buy parts from a reputable dealer in this country: You only get bitten once to learn from that mistake. I just think - Take this as an example. Customer buys a stillen product from tarmac, issue with said product, customer rings tarmac wants refund/replacement. As tarmac is a licensed trader for said brand, he would I guess have a good relationship with said brand and will be able to contact them and arrange something. Scenario B Customer buys stillen product from Grundy's Gizmo's (Great name I know ) issue with said product, customer rings Grundy's Gizmo's wants refund/replacement. But because I'm not getting my stock straight from Stillen, and getting them from somewhere else and selling them cheap to get my sales in, I either now have to out of my own pocket give this guy a refund/replacement orrrrr just tell him to do one. I think that makes sense anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Authorised resellers have the approval of the manufacturers, without that you won't get a warranty. Most of the traders on here have that, so I'd use one of them for sure when you replace it (Tarmac Sportz, Clarke motorsport and cougar store are definitely authorised resellers ) Just to be a pedantic PITA (I know, me?!), but that wouldn't matter here as the SOGA would override any manufacturer warranty at this point. Really, they're pretty much useless as your contract is with the person who sold it to you, not who made it. If it's non-compatible, then you are due a refund. But yes, I would only ever buy parts from a reputable dealer in this country: You only get bitten once to learn from that mistake. so why does vodafone send my phone back to sony to get repaired or Pc world send my tele to samsung when it is faulty ? this isnt a dig ekona im curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 They can send it to whoever they want, ultimately it's their responsibility to get it sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Scenario A Customer buys a stillen product from tarmac, issue with said product, customer rings tarmac wants refund/replacement. As tarmac is a licensed trader for said brand, he would I guess have a good relationship with said brand and will be able to contact them and arrange something. Scenario B Customer buys stillen product from Grundy's Gizmo's (Great name I know ) issue with said product, customer rings Grundy's Gizmo's wants refund/replacement. But because I'm not getting my stock straight from Stillen, and getting them from somewhere else and selling them cheap to get my sales in, I either now have to out of my own pocket give this guy a refund/replacement orrrrr just tell him to do one. Pretty much, but it's really like this: Customer buys product, product turns out to be faulty. Customer returns product. Trader then gives refund or sorts replacement. He then becomes the customer with whoever he purchased it from: That may be the manufacturer, or it may be another supplier. They then have to refund or replace, and so on and so forth. They cannot tell them to do one, unless they're crooks and can hide from the law. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 I have a hoover we bought from Argos, there is a sticker on top from the manufacturer that says if something goes wrong to contact them rather than going back to the seller... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) They can send it to whoever they want, ultimately it's their responsibility to get it sorted. Scenario A Customer buys a stillen product from tarmac, issue with said product, customer rings tarmac wants refund/replacement. As tarmac is a licensed trader for said brand, he would I guess have a good relationship with said brand and will be able to contact them and arrange something. Scenario B Customer buys stillen product from Grundy's Gizmo's (Great name I know ) issue with said product, customer rings Grundy's Gizmo's wants refund/replacement. But because I'm not getting my stock straight from Stillen, and getting them from somewhere else and selling them cheap to get my sales in, I either now have to out of my own pocket give this guy a refund/replacement orrrrr just tell him to do one. Pretty much, but it's really like this: Customer buys product, product turns out to be faulty. Customer returns product. Trader then gives refund or sorts replacement. He then becomes the customer with whoever he purchased it from: That may be the manufacturer, or it may be another supplier. They then have to refund or replace, and so on and so forth. They cannot tell them to do one, unless they're crooks and can hide from the law. so basically an appovred retail can turn the issue around quickly with the manufacturer and a non authorised dealer will take longer as will have to get shipped down a supply chain Edited February 6, 2015 by StevoD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Not really, no. Approved trader really only means who is prepared to pay the most money for the right to say that, it doesn't mean that your service as a consumer is going to be any better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted February 6, 2015 Share Posted February 6, 2015 Not really, no. Approved trader really only means who is prepared to pay the most money for the right to say that, it doesn't mean that your service as a consumer is going to be any better explain? let say i buy from driftworks some Wisefab kit who deal directly with wisefab driftworks arrange for the collection to be send to wisefab in norway now lets say i buy a power by max kit from the a company in the uk who bought them from a company in the US who bought it from a manufactuer in the USA How can the turn around time with the long supply chain be faster than that who deals directly? the parts has got to be sent to the UK shop then they have to send it to there contact in america who then has to send it to the manufacturer? how can that be quicker than Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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