Sarnie Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 EEEEK I don't ever remembering any N/a engine going pop at all. Its sounds very dodgy to me. As guy said, it does sound a bit like a lack of oil. Has it been serviced according to Nissan's schedule? PS: I'd expect a huge labour bill to fit a new engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickya Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe at some stage in its life it wasnt N/A & had e.g NOS fitted, who knows?? Badluck mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe at some stage in its life it wasnt N/A & had e.g NOS fitted, who knows?? Badluck mate Maybe. What was the mileage when you purchased it Will? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 bizarre! What makes it more odd is the fact it went in for a service and they never noticed anything wrong - like no oil etc. Wierd........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It may of had an oil change while in service but it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of the plug being left out or not being replace properly. Didn't that happen to someone here when returning home after a service or am I thinking of another forum? Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It may of had an oil change while in service but it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of the plug being left out or not being replace properly. Didn't that happen to someone here when returning home after a service or am I thinking of another forum? Guy I saw that on a US forum. IIRC some guy got a service, went to work afterwards and when he parked up noticed a massive puddle of oil and a trail down the road Seem to remember they said that you'd be ok for a few miles until the oil had chance to heat up and drain away fully. Could have happened here I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 It may of had an oil change while in service but it wouldn't be the first time I've heard of the plug being left out or not being replace properly. Didn't that happen to someone here when returning home after a service or am I thinking of another forum? Guy Yep it happening to someone on here a while back. Can't remember who it was though........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Maybe. What was the mileage when you purchased it Will? It had 10,000 KM when i got it! Just to let you guys know, engine ordered today (didnt go for the £9,000 quote from Nissan! ahah) JDM 03 31k miles, £1995+vat (free delivery, but engine exchange). And its costing £800 to have the old one removed and new one dropped in on Monday. Cost me £200 to get the car to the garage, so total is about £3000 so far.. ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 aha http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6088&highlight=oil+missing+plug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 I wish it was that simple to pinpoint, as i would be able to fight that the problem was definitely caused by Nationwide Service Center.. but the plug was on, no oil pi**ed out or anything.. I guess that doesn't mean something could have happened to it and they topped it up before i picked it up.. you just don't know really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 did they actually put any oil in after they drained it. So hard to proove. Have you made any contact with Nationwide so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Posted October 18, 2007 Author Share Posted October 18, 2007 Yeh, when it went into Nissan the day after Nationwide had it, they checked there was oil, and the oil level, and what oil filter. Apparently Nissan told Nationwide(who were at this point calling Nissan!) that this was all ok. I have spoken to the Nationwide garage in question (St. Albans). The manager there is a total spoon, he was very rude and totally unhelpful. Then i rang head office, they said the area manager would call me but instead i got another callback from the St. Albans manager, who again insisted it was nothing they have done and demanded the Senior Technicians number at Nissan that had diagnosed the seize. I told him not to call me again, and i only want to speak to the area manager. The area manager called, he was even more of a spoon. I told him that his engineer had told ME to go buy a new battery after i reported the issue the next morning, also that he left me a torch as a present, and that as part of there checks they have to check wiper blades and these were not checked as my rear one was split. I told him i had to question the abilities of his engineer. He just went off on one telling me he was cautioning me not to speak slander about his staff.. haha.. at this point i just told him if the garage that its at now finds anything that indicates it had anything to do with Nationwide, or anything that they SHOULD have checked and didn't, then i will seek legal advice. Unfortunately, i don't think im ever gonna be able to prove this had anything to do with them. Will Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 However if they have failed to make any other checks then surely Nationwide are on the back foot and then prove they DID do everything correctly as you have proof that they DID NOT do everything..... Digsy, what is your professional opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think it might be worth trying to find a solicitor who specialises in this area who can offer some advice and if any action can be taken if you wish to proceed. It may cost but it may be cheaper than new engine plus if you should win you would get costs back anyway. I just couldn't let it go by. No offense digsy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickya Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think we should all stay clear of Nationwide by the sounds of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 I think it might be worth trying to find a solicitor who specialises in this area who can offer some advice and if any action can be taken if you wish to proceed. It may cost but it may be cheaper than new engine plus if you should win you would get costs back anyway. I just couldn't let it go by. No offense digsy Couldn't agree more, Mike. Not my area and you wouldn't ask your heart surgeon about your brain tumor.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live2themaxuk Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 Basically look into what caused the sieze, review findings and start pointing fingers and hope they will accept responsibility if it is their fault Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Mings opinion. Get the engine to an independent examiner quickly before the garage gets rid of the evidence. A crank and engine that has seized through lack of oil would, i am sure, show signs of heat damage that would not be present in a normally lubricated engine. I just cannot see how a 65,000 mile engine could implode with such violence to itself without some major failing. This sort of damage is usually reserved for FI engines running big BHP , not under stressed standard engines like ours. What do they claim to have done on the service? The 'spoon' replies you are getting including the garbage about SLANDER are indicative of someone with something to hide in my professional opinion. A lot of these places get aggressive to try and put the average punter off from complaining. Any engine that comes away from a service at a dealership or other reputable garage and BLOWS UP a few miles later, especially when they left a torch under the bonnet and didn't find split windscreen wipers MUST be suspect. I personally COULD NOT let this go!! Good luck which ever way you decide to go on this and I think you labour bill sounds VERY reasonable! Good luck and keep us posted Ming the very interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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