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Well we live in a supposed nice part of MK, and saturday night we had a couple of teenages run down our close, being chased by a car, the kids apparently loitered in our back garden for a while, before leaving, but they also damaged some neighbors fence panels too. We are also going through a spate of people trying their luck with car doors, and robbing peoples cars. I guess its xmas, and people want things to sell to get money. But why not work for a living!

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The usual Christmas crime spree, gets worse every year. Talking to a mate in the pub

 

last night and 4 houses in their street were burgled last week (its also a nice area, no good

 

robbing a poor area you'll get nothing..!) and several cars broken into...Low life dic*heads. :rant: :rant:

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Clear that Ron wanted the Dane (and he is undoubtedly going to be a star of the future if he gets another break) but there are a whole host of reasons why Button ticked more boxes, not least of which the experience he brings and for Mclaren to have any chance of winning the constructors championship......providing the Honda package can match/outperform Mercedes, with their pair of proven race winners.

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So gutted that they've chosen Button. Yes, he's a championship winner, but that's only because of the whole double diffuser debacle. Without Brawn GP having such an advantage he never would have had a seat at McLaren and would probably have been pushed out of F1 all together by now. Magnussen clearly still has a lot to learn, but he's also got 14 F1 seasons less than button under his belt!

 

Just looked this up, in his first 153 grand prix races, button had one win. Then in 2009 he had 6 and in the 96 races since the 2009 season he's had 8 wins. Not exactly the most impressive record is it.

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That's how I see it too. I really like JB as a person, but as a driver he's really not in the top echelons at all despite the championship win. Everyone harks back to Valencia in the wet as proof he's amazing, but that was some very good/lucky judgement calls on the team's behalf to put him on the right tyres at the right time, and relied on Vettel binning it too.

 

I have no idea why everyone seems to think that the Honda engine will suddenly turn a dog of a car into a race winner. Even if it's as good or better than the Merc lump, they are massively inferior on the aero package so would still be at or behind RB and Williams.

 

I would not be remotely surprised if McLaren did not perform any better next year than this. Alonso will have to adjust to a brand new car again, Button will have to learn the car as Alonso is clearly going to have it built for him, and they're both using an engine with zero race miles on it.

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Good for Bernie.. :thumbs:

 

Bernie Ecclestone refuses to give up his crusade against F1's current engine formula.

Meeting with a select group of reporters on Thursday including Forbes' business journalist Christian Sylt, the F1 chief executive revealed that he intends to propose the sport brings back loud "normally-aspirated" engines for 2016.

He said he will table the matter at the December 18 meeting of the powerful Strategy Group.

Asked if he is contemplating V8s or V10s, and referring to the teams and manufacturers, 84-year-old Ecclestone answered: "It's up to them."

Ecclestone said to counter the argument that abandoning the quieter energy-recovery-boosted turbos would be a backwards step, the 2016 engines would be branded as 'Hybrid' and have KERS systems aboard.

And he played down suggestions carmakers like Honda and Mercedes will walk away by insisting it would actually be "a bit of a dream for them to build a normally-aspirated engine and develop it to about 1000 horse power".

Not an obstacle

 

Ecclestone denied that potentially putting off Volkswagen might be another obstacle, as the German giant has been "out there for long enough and haven't made a big enough effort to come in".

Fascinatingly, Ecclestone also said the FIA might not even be an obstacle to the move, given that president FIA president Jean Todt "sold the rights" in a recent commercial deal.

"The Strategy Group that we have got," he explained. "We made a contribution of $40 million a year to buy that actually.

"They sold the rights to have this new group set up in the way we thought it should be set up," Ecclestone added.

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Bernie is eliminating the opposition.. :scare: :scare:

 

Paul Walsh is no longer a threat to Bernie Ecclestone's long reign over Formula One.

Specialist reports in the Financial Times and The Times newspapers said former Diageo chief Walsh, hotly tipped to become the sport's new chairman over the last few days, has now "walked away".

Asked last week about claims Walsh intended to "rein in" Ecclestone's controversial management style, the 84-year-old F1 supremo had fired: "First he's got to be appointed, hasn't he?"

A source has now told the London newspaper The Times: "Paul only wanted to take it on if there was complete accountability and authority. There was neither and he did not want to be simply a puppet or figurehead."

Although CVC did not comment, the news is interpreted as a blow to F1's major shareholder as Donald Mackenzie had seriously courted Walsh for the role.

The F1 teams may also be disappointed, as backmarkers collapse, disputes over income and engines rage, and sponsorship and audience numbers decline.

An unnamed team boss said: "We are all back where we started and it looks as though nothing is going to change."

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Now who would have guessed that... :thumbs:

 

Luca di Montezemolo has a new jobs.

Former Ferrari boss Luca di Montezemolo has been appointed to the board of the F1 Group, main shareholder CVC has announced.

Meanwhile Bernie Ecclestone has been reappointed to the board after stepping down earlier this year during his legal dramas. He will continue as CEO having seemingly survived a difficult year with his power intact.

Montezemolo was previously on the board in his role as chairman of Ferrari, but now has a position of non-executive director in his own right.

Montezemolo is joined in a similar capacity by Paul Walsh, the former CEO of Diageo, owners of the Johnny Walker brand. Walsh, who is also a director of FedEx and Unilever, has been tipped as a replacement for Ecclestone. The appointments of both Walsh and Montezemolo commence on January 1.

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