roscopervis Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I had a day off on Friday and the weather remained half decent during daylight hours so I took the opportunity to do the winter prep and protection clean on the ol' Zed (minus the wheels, will do them next available day). Did the whole caboodle, with full decontamination, claycloth, selective machine polish on certain areas (usually like to do a decent one at the start of summer), and onto the application of the Sonax Polymer Net Shield an aerosol based sealant. Two layers have been added. I'm hoping that it will last the full winter by itself and I'm going to update this with pictures of the finish and protection offered by the product. The can states six months protection. The attractiveness of this product is the ease of use - spray on a microfibre pad, apply with light strokes and thats it. If over-applied it will need a light buffing but it shouldn't really. Also, it's not a slick product, but that's not the idea - it's an incredible water beader and offers superb self cleaning properties, so over the winter I'm going to try and get away with as many touchless washes using snowfoam only as possible. Less touching, less scratches. I know it won't be 100%, but the main idea is to keep the salt and other bad stuff away. It rained heavily Friday night, I drove the car back from the train station (after watching the weirdest game of rugby!) and the water just fell off the car once moving. The car is still clean, whereas most products would have lefts watermarks following that deluge and drive through the rain. So a good start. Was toying with an Illogikal style test, but instead will try that on the workhorse (Seat Leon) instead. Here's the full list of products used: Turtlewax Ice Wheel Cleaner used also as iron remover (Can be picked up for £2 or less from Tesco Extras - works well!) Bilt Hamber Autofoam Muc-off Ubershine shampoo Tardis A no name £12.95 fine grade clay cloth Meguiars Ultimate Compound (Very versatile and finishes well) used with a Milwaukee AP12 rotary. Meguiars Stage 1 Paint Cleaner IPA (12.5%) Wipe down. Sonax PNS. GTechniq G5 on glass. Not too much iron contamination on the paint. Just now after the rain, still very clean. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) I'm going to try this myself, as I'm using BSD at the moment which is awesome, but don't know if its man enough for winter conditions. Edited November 16, 2014 by 350zedd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I've got a bit of a boner for sonax products at the mintue, the BSD and wheel cleaner are current favs. Good to see another one of thier products getting a run out. I'll add this to my things to try list, thanks for sharing. Looks well after the rain. Anything that can cope with the sand/dust that gets in the rain round here is a god send. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscopervis Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 This is like BSD on steroids. It's like BSD is Ribena dilute, this is Ribena straight from the bottle, no water. If it does start to fail (I'm not expecting it to by March/April) then a squirt of BSD will be enough to top it up for at least a month, with the two hopefully working well together. This stuff has even better water behaviour and even better self cleaning. Sonax have an excellent range of products out currently. Saying that, Bilt Hamber AutoWheels is the equal of the wheel cleaner and is cheaper, if you need an alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Just ordered some PNS now!! Trying to get my daughter to use Sonax, so I've just done half the bonnet on her Lancer with BSD so she can see the beading effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Was toying with an Illogikal style test, but instead will try that on the workhorse (Seat Leon) instead. Do it, it's great doing those tests (and it'll save me doing it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscopervis Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 Will do, was gonna start to prep it today but ate something dodgy so just watched the GP instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscopervis Posted December 14, 2014 Author Share Posted December 14, 2014 Both cars are filthy and its cold! Should be good to see how the PNS is doing when I can get round to washing it, but still haven't had a chance to start a LSP test on my Seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscopervis Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 Right, a long term update to this thread, it's now 5 months since I applied Sonax's Polymer Net Shield (PNS), and the big question is - how did it do? I took 2 extra days off last weekend to do my summer prep but tonsillitis put pay to that, so I need to wait until I have a few days spare again to give it the full works. In the meantime, its regular washing until then. It hadn't been washed for a month and we've had the dusty rain. It hasn't rained much, but what we've had has been dirty! What this does show is that when it rains, the water still beads strongly: The wash is just a simple snowfoam, 2 bucket wash and dry. In testing the PNS I haven't been topping it with anything to see exactly how it performs over time. The car isn't garaged so is out in all weathers. With the daily, I've been running an alternative strategy - using Sonax's 'Quick Detailer' (but which really is a spray sealant) Brilliant Shine Detailer (BSD) as a drying aid every 3rd wash. I wash and dry the Zed first so there's no BSD contaminating the result. So straight onto the snowfoaming (Carchem which is applied at a 5% ratio at the panel). Recently started using this, been using Bilt Hamber's very Impressive Autofoam, but the Carchem deal piqued my interest. It's good, certainly up there with Bilt Hamber, which is as far as I am concerned the best I have used. Attacked the daily too Left to dwell And rinsed Onto the 2 bucket wash, I use Autoglym's Bodywork Conditioning Shampoo - It's a decent shampoo, doesn't sud much but is fairly slick and cleans well. I had it for really cheap so I have loads to get through. Works plenty good enough. The key with both the foaming and shampooing is to use products that aren't harsh or dilutions that are correct. Too strong and you'll put unnecessary strain on any last stage product you are using. The same goes on wheels, if you have protected those too. Post wash rinse The shampoo's benefit to most people is that it helps rinse quickly. I tried to get some sheeting but the PNS is a beader and basically confused the shampoo's rinsing quality. For comparison, this the daily last applied with BSD as a drying aid a month ago. All done So, before I say what I've learned I need to clarify that I'm dead lazy so I like things easy peasy. The PNS is certainly that, it applies easily, and over the last 5 months has kept the car cleaner than typical waxes, and a snowfoaming gets the car 90% clean. Furthermore, as the pictures show, it is still very much evident on the paint and could go on a few months more I'm sure. Of course, it isn't as insanely beady as it was when first applied, but is still about as beady as most decent sealants and waxes are after about a week, after 5 months! If I were to use BSD as a drying aid, even after every 3rd or 4th wash, I think you could keep up the protection indefinitely. Of course it's wise to decontaminate, clay and polish your car at least once a year, but I'm confident that PNS is durable enough to last in between those sessions, especially if an occasional top up of BSD is also used. I do it twice a year and it clearly has easily seen through winter. It hasn't been particularly harsh here, but given how strongly it still performs, I have confidence that it could deal with worse. Post clean the paint still has a sharpness and reflectivity to it that is impressive. Overall, for £13, I have to say I'm extremely impressed by this product. People may say it can be grabby, but by using damp applicators that helps. I have found it a breeze to use, and seeing as it easily lasts 5 months (the can itself says up to 6 months, but I think it can go further) then it's a very low maintenance product for people who aren't a fan of the whole detailing regime but want an easy to use product to protect their paint. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscopervis Posted April 25, 2015 Author Share Posted April 25, 2015 I know some like beading pics - now this isn't insane beading, but after 5 months, I think this is pretty darn impressive! All in all, a recommended product. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zedd Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Have to agree with you on this....awesome product. I bought some after seeing it on the start of this thread. Its been on the Zed 5 months as well, with similar results. I'm about to get myself a DAS-6 polisher to do some light swirl correction. After polishing, I'll be re-applying the Sonax PNS without a doubt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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