live2themaxuk Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 Hey all if my car has been sat over night, or maybe couple of hours after going to the gym, for the first 3-4 minutes, it seems to accelerate harder and im SURE im not imagining it. When i accelerate say it second, there seems to be ALOT more induction'y v-tecy sound to it,, the whole acceleration noise is alot more inductiony compared to when its warmed up and alot more raspy and roary from the exhaust. Obviously if its got 'cold' then the ECU is gonna be implementing some choke or some different map to help the car warm up and get up to operating temperature, but i dont understand why it seems more torquey especially after the magic 3k rpm mark. There no way its do to with the airfilter sucking in 'hot' air, as it only seems faster for the first 3-4 minutes until its warmed up, then the inductiony raw dies off. does anyone else notice this? JWT pop charger Fujitsubo cat back decat pipes Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 But maybe it is to do with sucking in warm air. I think that the zed's engine warms pretty quick and remember cold air is more dense than warm air........could that be the reason for the different noise.? Do you have the heat shield in place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GC350z Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 The MY07 roars when started from cold. Incredible sound. Lasts between 30secs and a minute. The MY04 was never as loud. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 The ECU will run in open loop mode when you start the engine until the O2 sensors have heated up sufficiently to provide a useable signal. The ECU then switches to closed loop and pretty much always operates in closed loop unless you are at or near wide open throttle. Closed loop can be thought of as 'ECU dialling out my mods mode' - it's not really that simple but a good enough analogy. So when you start up, you are actually getting the benefit from your breathing mods (decats, exhaust and popcharger) until the car goes into closed loop mode. So it is probably a genuine effect you are experiencing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted September 19, 2007 Share Posted September 19, 2007 The ECU will run in open loop mode when you start the engine until the O2 sensors have heated up sufficiently to provide a useable signal. The ECU then switches to closed loop and pretty much always operates in closed loop unless you are at or near wide open throttle. Closed loop can be thought of as 'ECU dialling out my mods mode' - it's not really that simple but a good enough analogy. So when you start up, you are actually getting the benefit from your breathing mods (decats, exhaust and popcharger) until the car goes into closed loop mode. So it is probably a genuine effect you are experiencing Yeah what he says... Until the car is warmed up you'll have that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
live2themaxuk Posted September 20, 2007 Author Share Posted September 20, 2007 Thanks prescience and Sinbad Its weird i kinda figured that in a way as the eagerness i got from it and the induction sound was not unlike the effect i had when i put and induction kit on a previous car, though, the effect didnt go away as such. Froma technical perspective what actually makes the induction noise more just after startup as that is evident there is no doubt. . . .? Just the increased air flow? Now. . . what can i do to keep it . .? Chip? Uni, F-con, UTEC etc? i guess Jamie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 Reset the ECU regularly (the pedal procedure in FAQs), a reset delays the 'recovery' to full closed loop equilibrium since it resets short and long-term fuel trims - which take some miles to return to equilibrium values Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev946 Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 No need to get too technical. Simply pu cold air is more dense which = more oxygen. Fuel needs oxygen to burn. This is why turbo cars have enormous intercoolers often bigger than the radiator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kennydies Posted September 20, 2007 Share Posted September 20, 2007 I dont ever put my foot down when the engine is cold, I always wait until the oil is up to temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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