Yellowgt4 Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 I've had some 'enthusiastic' driving in my z. Had an altercation with a Astra vxr and new shape focus rs. The Astra fell away and I was pushing the rs all the way. This was on a private road obviously. I'm proud of what the z can achieve. And mine isn't even the hallowed hr! But like most people are saying it's the looks that matter. Also the z was built from the ground up to be a sports car. Hot hatches are exactly that hatchbacks that have had to be adapted to take a few more ponies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbyheinz Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 A friend of mine had one which he had remapped.....it was ****ing quick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted October 10, 2014 Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) A friend of mine had one which he had remapped.....it was ****ing quick 200bhp in a car that size really isn't *****ing quick, quick maybe but not ****ing quick Edited October 10, 2014 by GIXXERUK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB-) Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I've just bought my HR, coming from a 2010 Octavia vRS petrol DSG. I sold my Octy to my brother and knew I wanted to get a zed. I then test drove a 55 plate zed and was gutted. It just didn't feel quick like I though it was going to. To give the zed another chance, me and our kid then went to view 54 plate, and on the test drive he followed me in the Octavia. Second gear coming off a roundabout around 30mph, foot to the floor and the Octavia was right there up to 100mph (didn't go any faster), There was nothing in it. These two experiences put me off the zed until I decided to stop being an idiot and take the zed for what it is. It may not be be able to outrun modern hot hatches in a straight line, but that's not what the car is about. They drive brilliantly, handle well, put a smile on your face, and at the end of he day they are still fairly fast. I went for the HR for that bit of extra power and just take the car for what it is, and love it. On the subject of giant killers, I've beaten plenty of 'fast' cars around the Nurburgring in a Suzuki Swift Sport, including Ferraris and Porsches. Now THAT would be embarrassing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeezeebaba Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The M3 was really quick, a skoda vrs is only hot hatch quick. If I had wanted speed I would have kept the BMW. The 350z feels high end hot hatch quick but also feels and looks like a proper drivers car. It's way fast enough for British roads and tbh who cares about a few tenths here and there. I'm a driving enthusiast not a boy racer. The person in the VAG box can overtake for all I care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leet8845 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Just a supercharger or turbo to the Z if you want to go faster in a straight line and even the playing field with these modern hot hatches. We're lucky to have that option, for the RX8, there's no reliable FI options whatsoever even if you're prepared to spend £15k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrt Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Had my HR 313 up revel to 331 by tdi North and it still feels slow. Probably just me getting used to it. New clutch,DMF and full exhaust fitted too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 Single mass flywheel would've helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leet8845 Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think you just get used to the power no matter what. At first the Z felt really fast to me coming from the 192 RX8, that lasted about 2 journeys and it feels slow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I have trouble keeping up with the flow of traffic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 I think you just get used to the power no matter what. At first the Z felt really fast to me coming from the 192 RX8, that lasted about 2 journeys and it feels slow Exactly. Remember when I first went from a 92 Golf VR6 (which I thought was fast at the time) to a my96 JDM Impreza WRX ~ it was a totally different league and was like a rocket ship for the first few weeks/months. Once I got used to that though I wanted more power and tuned it up further. Even then I got used to that again. Just a never ending circle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Posted October 12, 2014 Share Posted October 12, 2014 The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Or the other cars aren't ragging there tits off. I've beaten a 'insert faster car here' in a straight before which is meant to be quicker, although, he didn't know it was a race and wasn't trying, but I still won. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Turbo lag disappeared in the 90's, all the modern units Ive driven are lag free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hensh65 Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Sergio Aguero drives a 350z!!!! Sorry, but I do feel sorry for you gearbox & clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exotic Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 (edited) The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Or the other cars aren't ragging there tits off. I've beaten a 'insert faster car here' in a straight before which is meant to be quicker, although, he didn't know it was a race and wasn't trying, but I still won. True it could be that or they are in the wrong gear.. I never felt it's slow although I haven't had the pleasure of driving cars much faster than the zed The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Turbo lag disappeared in the 90's, all the modern units Ive driven are lag free Not so, my dad's E class merc (2007 320CDI) has massive lag, you can put your foot all the way down on the accelerator quickly and take it off, and it doesn't even register it!! Depends on the car probably. The main thing about the Zed is that the N/A engine gives a linear power delivery, unlike Turbo's which give a 'boost' through the power delivery. On the plus side there's no turbo lag so I still don't think the Zed is slow in a straight line, I have kept up with many cars which on paper should be a little quicker, but I am ruthless with the gear shifts. Sergio Aguero drives a 350z!!!! Sorry, but I do feel sorry for you gearbox & clutch Thanks for that I don't rag it that much really. It's just swift fast changes, no dilly dallying, and I definitely don't clash gears! Edited October 13, 2014 by Exotic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comrade Posted October 13, 2014 Share Posted October 13, 2014 Is this thread still going on? OMG people stop being so insecure and enjoy your cars 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Fabia VRS is 1200kg so if it was remapped it would have a power to weight ratio not far off the Zed. It's no surprise, it's all about Power to weight ratio in this sort of thing. Round a track or on a twisty road, you'd be able to put the power down more easily on the Zed but I wouldn't dismiss the Fabia with a competent driver. Edited October 14, 2014 by wmr1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne370Z Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 So after 5 pages can we now take it that the Fabia VRS has taken the title of 350Z killer away from the Astra VXR ? ........ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Turbo diesels deliver the power in big yawns compared to turbo petrol cars. I wouldn't say it's the best example in terms of lag. A different animal IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Lag or boost threshold? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 ^^^ That. Most people don't know the difference. Not saying that Doc doesn't though, he's one of the more knowledge guys I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Lag or boost threshold? boost thresh hold is not much to write home about, or at least in my TDI Golf which is all out of ideas by 2.8rev, lag on the other hand, nothing much happenes if you floor it under 2krev, after that it's fine but pretty unresponsive before hand. Edited October 14, 2014 by Rock_Steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 Boost threshold is the point in the rev range at which it starts making boost, lag is when you lift your foot off the gas and then plant it, and how long it takes to spool up again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted October 14, 2014 Share Posted October 14, 2014 (edited) Boost threshold is the point in the rev range at which it starts making boost, lag is when you lift your foot off the gas and then plant it, and how long it takes to spool up again. ah, thanks for that Ekona . Of course depends on the diesel turbo, so perhaps my post is moot. Boost thresh hold on the My Golf is just before 2k, as for the lag, I haven't taken much notice. I'll have to try that on the way home tonight just out of curiousity. All I know is that with all the tubby cars I've had (petrol mind you) lag has never been a problem if you're in the right rev range. Edited October 14, 2014 by Rock_Steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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