Jetpilot Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. It would make zero difference, they still wouldnt be asked to remove Burkhas for fear of retribution. It doesnt matter if the stats show helmet wearer robberies exceed burkha wearer robberies, they still happen as documented below. I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. Does Selfridges count? http://www.bbc.co.uk...london-22811466 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. Does Selfridges count? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-22811466 No, it's not a garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinjj Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. Does Selfridges count? http://www.bbc.co.uk...london-22811466 No, it's not a garage They were on motorbikes though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted September 7, 2014 Share Posted September 7, 2014 (edited) I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. It would make zero difference, they still wouldnt be asked to remove Burkhas for fear of retribution. It doesnt matter if the stats show helmet wearer robberies exceed burkha wearer robberies, they still happen as documented below. I would like someone to provide me with a statistical analysis, from an official body recognised by law in this country. Of the number of garages historically held up by people wearing crash helmets, versus the number of garages historically held up by women wearing burkha's. I feel this might add something useful to the debate. Does Selfridges count? http://www.bbc.co.uk...london-22811466 If, from a statistical study, something is proven to occur more often. It would seem reasonable (one might think) to draw conclusions from that frequency (or lack ) of occurrence and use those conclusions, influenced by proven data capture and analysis,to either encourage or dissuade certain actions or behaviour no? I can only assume (because I don't have access to the data) that unfortunately and historically, that a significant number of people wearing motorcycle helmets have committed robberies at petrol stations and other locations. Companies, including massive organisations like Shell, Esso, BP, Tesco, Morrisons etc, etc do not want to alienate done of their clientele on purpose. They want biker money as much as anyone else's . However, their risk assessors and insurance have identified to them that 'Bikers wearing a helmet are a statistical risk'. Therefore they may feel they have to act on that and ask bikers to remove their helmets. It's unfair , it seems like a minority is being picked on just for riding a bike and it's not fair someone else can cover their face, etc, etc.Its a bit crap isn't it? However, until statistics show that Burkha wearing robbers pose as much or more of a statistical risk than bike helmet wearing robbers, it's not going to change, that's just the way it is. Don't get angry with the Burkha wearers, get angry with the bike helmet wearing idiots who steal stuff from people, it's their fault at the end of the day. Alternatively try riding wearing a burkha over your helmet, they will never ask you to take your helmet off, because they won't see it under your burkha. That way you're beating them at their own game Edited September 7, 2014 by Bockaaarck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) if you're going to pay @ a petrol station, you'll take the helmet off if required and walk in to pay. If you're wearing a burka you're not going to take it off and walk in to pay, I mean, that's why you walk in generally... to pay. If you walk in wearing a burka and rob the place, you rob the place. If you walk in wearing a helmet and rob the place, you rob the place. the only difference is, if someone looks like they're going to walk in wearing a helmet, you can get a heads up that they might rob the place. This is a moot topic. Edited September 9, 2014 by Rock_Steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 wtf does it matter really? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 wtf does it matter really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not a fan of Burkas but for different reasons. Seems to me that they are just one of many ways in which religion is used to control women and keep them in their place. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) I heard that burkas a worn so that the beauty of the woman wearing it, does not entice a man to have inappropriate thoughts of that woman. IF there's any truth in it I find it a little over assuming that, I am going to think that woman is beautiful and that even if I did, i'm going to think of inappropriate things about that woman. Just because I am a man, doesn't mean I constantly think with my manhood. Edited September 9, 2014 by Rock_Steady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 I heard that burkas a worn so that the beauty of the woman wearing it, does not entice a man to have inappropriate thoughts of that woman. IF there's any truth in it I find it a little over assuming that, I am going to think that woman is beautiful and that even if I did, i'm going to think of inappropriate things about that woman. Just because I am a man, doesn't mean I constantly think with my manhood. I am a man, and I do 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog1982 Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 (edited) Never take my lid off and if got told to remove it I wouldn't fill up. I do put the visor up though. Bike has got a nice big registration plate on the back and CCTV everywhere, I can understand it might look a little intimidating but always very polite when I enter the station to pay. Edited September 9, 2014 by maddog1982 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereboy Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Meh.... Religion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Meh.... Religion It's just a big argument over who's imaginary friend is better. If I told everyone I had an imaginary friend called David, who died 3000 years ago from being thrown from a catapult and could change the future for me. If I then put an image of said catapult on my wall and knelt in front of it and spoke to David every night and morning I'd be sectioned. If I did it with 200 of my followers it would be called a cult and I'd be brainwashing people. A couple of million people do it and it's perfectly fine?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZEUS Posted September 9, 2014 Share Posted September 9, 2014 Never take my lid off and if got told to remove it I wouldn't fill up. I do put the visor up though. Bike has got a nice big registration plate on the back and CCTV everywhere, I can understand it might look a little intimidating but always very polite when I enter the station to pay. I do the exact same I've only been asked once to remove my helmet before fueling up in 23 years of riding and I refused,rode to another one and never used that garage again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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