mouthwash Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 What I don't get is that unless you're shifting slowly, what is the point in doing it? If my car needs to be at 4K RPM to meet the next gears needs and I make that with a usual gear change process, what have I achieved by keeping my foot on the floor? I'm genuinely curious as it seems a bit of an odd thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ350z Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 You don't do it unless you have a modified Box as far as im aware. Its very different if you're racing a motorbike. Clutchless upshifts are supposedly faster but I found them to feel slightly clunky and preferred using the clutch Again you can get a powershifter or whatever they are called installed and its smooth and instant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 You don't do it unless you have a modified Box as far as im aware. Its very different if you're racing a motorbike. Clutchless upshifts are supposedly faster but I found them to feel slightly clunky and preferred using the clutch Again you can get a powershifter or whatever they are called installed and its smooth and instant. Never used the clutch on upshifts on my bike, just felt right not to I have a bit more mechanical sympathy for the car, but sometimes do the odd upshift with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJ350z Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 Each to their own. A lot of my friends do clutchless ups. Depends what bike you have I suppose. A lot of the main manufactures have different boxes. My gsxr was smoother than my R6 but I had a much bigger grin on the r6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desey Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 Guys, we have have sychros, this aint 1940! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ts743 Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 We have Japanese synchros... they don't last long! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisS Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Guys, we have have sychros, this aint 1940! I was thinking along the lines of........ 21st century get a 370 it has a button for this. HT on the up, can be of use for 'weight transfer' but I thought more for scrabblers not rear wheel drives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 using a button is cheating! real men heel and toe themselves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) No, I wasn't. I thought it would be obvious that you heel and toe on up shifts and blip on downchange. He got this the wrong way round is anyone is still confused, if youre double declutching then get out of the 1970's and if youre shifting up while braking youve got bigger problems I can also confirm that trying to H+T in a manual 370Z with the rev match on confuses the hell out of it Edited August 12, 2014 by docwra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I can also confirm that trying to H+T in a manual 370Z with the rev match on confuses the hell out of it I always wondered what would happen if you tried that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie94gts Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 I started heel and toeing in my old mr2 after I locked the back wheels entering a corner on a trackday. I was slowing for a corner and braking hard, I changed gear and managed to lock up the back wheels. I put it down the differential between the current revs and the New revs. It also makes the gear go in easier if the revs match. With heel and toe I haven't experienced the problem again. Also it sounds cool and is fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie94gts Posted August 30, 2014 Share Posted August 30, 2014 It should also extend the life of the clutch, which has got to be a good thing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I found with my bad knee and ankle the 350 was the hardest car to H+T in. Even with the modified pedals. I found the brake pedal height was poor. Had no issues in the mr2, S2000 both brilliant cars and gearboxes for heel and toe. Even the gti6 was easier to heel and toe. I gave up in the end on the zed it wasn't worth rupturing the cartilage in my leg trying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Oh yes blipping the throttle on the downshifts like a boss! Great skill to learn for track driving, keeps everything smooth and balanced before turn in. I find it a lot easier if you're braking hard in the first place, lines the pedals up better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie94gts Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 It does seem harder in the zed than the old mr2. I still haven't got the hang of it. Seems to be very dependant on footwear and is easier under hard braking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I rev match all the time but only really find the need to heal n toe when making 'significant progress' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I think I'm lucky, I'd never tried it before the Z, so I've nothing to compare it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Likewise. I learnt with the Nismo pedal in my old 350 but now I use the technique in everything I drive, all the time. Second nature now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones350 Posted October 21, 2014 Share Posted October 21, 2014 Finally scourced a 380rs pedal from nissan autosports in usa...great service, delivered in 10 days...cost 27 dollars50c and postage was 40 dollars...less than 44 quid at todays ex rate...didn't have a problem heel n toeing with original set up, but this makes it even easier, and looks cool in the bargain!...heel toe upshifts?!! Yeah right!... wackywill certainty lives up 2 his name lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desey Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 Finally scourced a 380rs pedal from nissan autosports in usa...great service, delivered in 10 days...cost 27 dollars50c and postage was 40 dollars...less than 44 quid at todays ex rate...didn't have a problem heel n toeing with original set up, but this makes it even easier, and looks cool in the bargain!...heel toe upshifts?!! Yeah right!... wackywill certainty lives up 2 his name lol does this lower the the brake pedal at all, im 6"2 and ive got my HT on the spot but every now and then my knee will hit the bottom of the steering wheel, seat fully back, steering wheel at its highest even when braking normally if i were to move my leg completely over my knee just touches the bottom of the wheel anyone else get this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrjones350 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 No, the brake pedal isn't affected, it's just a replacement accelerator pedal shaped better for bridging over...don't have the problem your talking about myself(I'm 5'11"though) ...guess you've already tried adjusting the steering/instrument rake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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