Ekona Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I don't I don't like the positioning of Merc DRLs so low down, but otherwise I think they're a good idea for the most part. It's a shame they've become necessary because people are too stupid to use dipped lights appropriately, but on the other hand they've added a dimension to the design of cars which has been interesting to watch develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted August 11, 2014 Author Share Posted August 11, 2014 That's true about people forgetting dipped lights but they're better than the old style sidelights or than nothing at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 The worse thing they ever did was call them sidelights. If they'd called them parking lights, people might have an idea as to what they should really be used for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I once got pulled for having my fog lights on, nice policeman told me only to use them in fog and falling snow. That was back in the early 1970's though. As others have pointed out dipped headlights in poor light, heavy rain, snow, etc are a must, not that you can see any better its so that other road users including pedestrians can see you. Most bikers leave their dipped lights on all the time and in Sweden it's mandatory for all vehicles. Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 when I've been dazzled by front fogs I do the same as BBK I put my full beams on. but I don't drive down the middle of the road. the clue is in the name of the light...FOG...if it isn't foggy, then TURN THE MOTHER FUDGERS OFF!!!! it gets worse when the nights draw in, as more people think they need them on. it boils my pi$$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted August 11, 2014 Share Posted August 11, 2014 I once got pulled for having my fog lights on, nice policeman told me only to use them in fog and falling snow. That was back in the early 1970's though. As others have pointed out dipped headlights in poor light, heavy rain, snow, etc are a must, not that you can see any better its so that other road users including pedestrians can see you. Most bikers leave their dipped lights on all the time and in Sweden it's mandatory for all vehicles. Pete I had the same thing Pete in about 1998 ~ tbh I used to think it looked cool having my fog lights on at night whilst driving my Seat Ibiza when I was young & stupid. Police man in Cardiff pulled me over and told me the error of my ways. Never did it again as I didn't want to attract unwanted attention from the Police plus I enjoy driving & wanted to do things right. the clue is in the name of the light...FOG...if it isn't foggy, then TURN THE MOTHER FUDGERS OFF!!!! Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Bar Kid Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 (edited) I put my lights on full beam and then drive towards them down the middle of the road, or if they are behind me then put on my rear fog light and then slow down to make them slow.down. You're worse than them........Think about what your doing please.....So you blind them (and any other drivers that might be in front or behind them) and drive at them down the middle of the road? Absolute stupidity! Sorry I should have added that I only do that if there is no one behind on in front of them and for a short period of time until they turns there's off. Not for more than a second or two. Say what you want but it makes them stop and I only do it if it's safe to do so. Not gonna risk my car or anyone else's life. Otherwise I just flash my lights at them a couple of times. Edited August 12, 2014 by The Bounty Bar Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I once saw someone driving with their headlights on, on a sunny day, with sunglasses on!! if you can't see 1.5 ton of metal coming towards you without its lights on you need to have your eyes syringed. I dare say they had their lights on for your benefit, not because they couldn't see. On a sunny day, if the sun is low in the sky, the sun can be blinding if your driving towards it making it pretty difficult to see oncoming traffic unless they have their headlights on. I know if i'm driving, and the sun is bright and low in the sky behind me, I put my headlights on so people can see me. And yes....I also wear sun glasses. well, if I had your zed @ your spec, wearing sunglasses is an obligation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I once saw someone driving with their headlights on, on a sunny day, with sunglasses on!! if you can't see 1.5 ton of metal coming towards you without its lights on you need to have your eyes syringed. I dare say they had their lights on for your benefit, not because they couldn't see. On a sunny day, if the sun is low in the sky, the sun can be blinding if your driving towards it making it pretty difficult to see oncoming traffic unless they have their headlights on. I know if i'm driving, and the sun is bright and low in the sky behind me, I put my headlights on so people can see me. And yes....I also wear sun glasses. well, if I had your zed @ your spec, wearing sunglasses is an obligation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I once got pulled for having my fog lights on, nice policeman told me only to use them in fog and falling snow. That was back in the early 1970's though. As others have pointed out dipped headlights in poor light, heavy rain, snow, etc are a must, not that you can see any better its so that other road users including pedestrians can see you. Most bikers leave their dipped lights on all the time and in Sweden it's mandatory for all vehicles. Pete Since 2003 (iirc) bikes do not have a headlight switch, only main beam switch, dipped lights come on with the ignition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 I would very much like to see a 'wipers on, lights on' law introduced. Dipped only, of course, but it should be brought in. I very much like the fact that in some cars, when the windscreen wipers are left in auto and they come on with rain sensing, if the car detects that the wipers have gone five times in succession, it realises it must be raining fairly heavy, so it puts the dipped headlights on too. My range rover does this and its a great road safety feature. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Dipped headlights coming on linked to when the wipers are working continuously is a such an obvious pairing - just surprised so few manufacturers have not done this. But nothing worse than in pouring rain you see cars with no lights on at all I've been guilty of forgetting to turn off the fog light - in the 370 it is out of my normal vision due the steering wheel and again I feel this something manufacturers could readily address by more careful placing of warning lights as I'm sure that is why we see so many cars with fog/head/side lights on when not needed. Obviously there are the posers who think it is 'cool' to have the fogs on - scooby owners are notorious for that......er, me being one of them in my younger years (C1996) What does concern me is Volvo's and other cars that come with dipped headlights on all the time. We have all got used to a flash or two by drivers letting us turn etc but so often you see a Volvo wallowing about it looks at times though they are flashing their lights and if that co-incides with a turn you are making then you can easily be fooled into thinking they are helping that action. It has taught me over the years to always be wary of what you think is a kind gesture, for fear of getting caught out.....and whose fault is it when the Volvo T-Bones you...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 What does concern me is Volvo's and other cars that come with dipped headlights on all the time. We have all got used to a flash or two by drivers letting us turn etc but so often you see a Volvo wallowing about it looks at times though they are flashing their lights and if that co-incides with a turn you are making then you can easily be fooled into thinking they are helping that action. It has taught me over the years to always be wary of what you think is a kind gesture, for fear of getting caught out.....and whose fault is it when the Volvo T-Bones you...... ..........now being a beige volvo owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 My XKR has auto lights, when the amount of light drops the lights come on, and we're not talking night time only, if its overcast they come on. No need to be linked to wipers, just a simple LDR circuit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted August 12, 2014 Author Share Posted August 12, 2014 That's the old system- auto lights and auto wipers were separate. I think they meant they are now interlinked so the lights come on in heavier rain. But they would still come on as it gets darker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyZ Posted August 12, 2014 Share Posted August 12, 2014 Always put my dipped beams on except for perfect sunny days now, after someone crashed into me. I think they should scrap DRLs and just have the headlights on all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andywatson Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Blimey, let's hope nothing really serious happens while you fellers are out driving! Thought driving a Zed would keep you all happy not be out worrying and getting wound up about lights! Rears are a pain at night this is true, fronts only a pain if not adjusted properly (but then that's the same with headlights) but do make the front look good when on. When you are next out and the car in front has lights on that irritate you, just think "I am a far better driver than them" and Chill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Rears are a pain at night this is true, fronts only a pain if not adjusted properly (but then that's the same with headlights) but do make the front look good when on. No, they make you look like a ****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Not you personally, more in general! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Wow look how cool that sh1t car looks now he's put his fogs on......said no one ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock_Steady Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Dipped headlights coming on linked to when the wipers are working continuously is a such an obvious pairing - just surprised so few manufacturers have not done this. But nothing worse than in pouring rain you see cars with no lights on at all I've been guilty of forgetting to turn off the fog light - in the 370 it is out of my normal vision due the steering wheel and again I feel this something manufacturers could readily address by more careful placing of warning lights as I'm sure that is why we see so many cars with fog/head/side lights on when not needed. Obviously there are the posers who think it is 'cool' to have the fogs on - scooby owners are notorious for that......er, me being one of them in my younger years (C1996) What does concern me is Volvo's and other cars that come with dipped headlights on all the time. We have all got used to a flash or two by drivers letting us turn etc but so often you see a Volvo wallowing about it looks at times though they are flashing their lights and if that co-incides with a turn you are making then you can easily be fooled into thinking they are helping that action. It has taught me over the years to always be wary of what you think is a kind gesture, for fear of getting caught out.....and whose fault is it when the Volvo T-Bones you...... The next logical step should be, the closer you get to a car, the more the airbag should inflate. The further away you get the more it deflates. so in traffic when you get too close to someone, riding their bumper, all you get is the airbag in your face until you back off. An excellent safety feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Like some one said earlier, an audible tone like the seat belt undone one, but instead of an annoying bing and beep noise, it just keeps saying "tw@t" at you until you turn them off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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