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Review/decisions time. Coilovers headache!


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I've got:

- Tein monoflex coilovers with EDFC and

- KW V3.

I got the Teins after sending my KW for an overhaul in Germany as I had a small leak from the rebound nut/screw on the top. This was likely my fault from original installation 3yrs ago when I used an airgun on the nut on top of the damper while fitting the top mount. It was always wet from the start but worked ok until last year I noticed the rebound was slightly off on that side. It was a good thing I read the manual before getting to do the others!! I should remember to RTFM!!

Anyway long story short after waiting best part of 6 months it here! (It went AWOL in the KW factory!! ). Fully overhauled and guaranteed for 1 yr.

The Teins are not on the same build quality level of the KW but they are more track oriented with an inverted monotube design, 2 way(damping and rebound on the same knob) and linear springs which I've uprated from 10kgs to 12kgs. The other thing is the EDFC which enables you to adjust damping from with the car at the click of a button.

I've only used the on Bedford autodrome where it was well damped but that track is smooth. On A/B road or rough motorway its a bit crashy unless set very soft while makes it over-damped and you loose confidence to lean on them

 

The KWs are very good on fast road driving and on the track because of its progressive springs and superior valving characteristic despite being a twin tube design but these springs also make it slightly less consistent for banzai track use. I have tons of experience with them on both fast road and a variety of track including the Ring. There are times when it feels underdamped and you loose connection to the surface and feel for available grip. I can't fault them though as that's not what it's designed to do. The KW clubsports are the upgrade for serious track use.

The other superiority over Tein is the fact they are 3 way adjustable separately which means you can set it up perfectly for every road/track condition but its difficult and time taking to get right and the biggest bugbear is that you have to get under the car or remove the rear wheels to get to the compression knob!

 

Need to make a though decision or wait till I get back from the Ring after Wales to decide which coilovers I want to keep! Or sell both and get the KW clubsports or the equivalent Tein super racing while retaining the EDFC.

 

Any track gurus out there who can share their experience of a linear spring setup on aggressive track use will be helpful.

 

The KWs have strong interest so its unlikely ill be advertising it if I decide to sell them but keep eyes out for the Teins as this may go too:)

 

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Nothing to add experience wise mate but most of the guys I know with aftermarket systems on their GT3's/2's etc have KW's - they are very good but like you said, if you are trying to optimise it solely for track use, it could be worth the upgrade.

And if that's the case, Meister R GT1's could also be an option ?

(these are the ones I want OR KW's, although I believe it can be adjusted to suit needs, fast road, light track use for me)

 

Also just checking through some details a mate said that the Clubsport kits are a heavy duty anodised finish, and the competition race kits are galvanised. (CS not really designed to be used in salty conditions)

So do speak to KW if you go that route, as the CS may have or not been updated now as that info was from a few years ago.

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Thanks Robbo. You are right about the CS finish and that bugs me too. My mind is telling to upgrade to the Tein super racing and then I'll have full 3way adjustability and EDFC. I will not go for Meister R or any of the like. You get what you pay for. I've had the HKS hypermax RS and too and its cheap crap on finish. The problem with these level of coilovers is the valving is not very good and makes for poor body control. The finish is also not great and they end up rusting or seizing. The Teins are good but KW is on a different level to this respect.

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There are a lot of cheaper coilovers around and they are fine for most people but if I was tracking regularly I would go KW's. They are a really good piece of kit. I just opened an account with them, I doubt I will sell loads because most people are happy to purchase cheaper brands but the KW's are awesome.

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There are a lot of cheaper coilovers around and they are fine for most people but if I was tracking regularly I would go KW's. They are a really good piece of kit. I just opened an account with them, I doubt I will sell loads because most people are happy to purchase cheaper brands but the KW's are awesome.

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I run KW Clubsport and find that they are a superb piece of kit for track use.

Not designed for road use though and not cheap, however worth every penny IMHO.

Function over form for me, so not to concerned with the finish, however mines are still rust free and the adjusters etc still all move freely and no leaks.

Go for Clubsport, you will not be disappointed. :#1:

 

Alex. :)

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I run KW Clubsport and find that they are a superb piece of kit for track use.

Not designed for road use though and not cheap, however worth every penny IMHO.

Function over form for me, so not to concerned with the finish, however mines are still rust free and the adjusters etc still all move freely and no leaks.

Go for Clubsport, you will not be disappointed. :#1:

 

Alex. :)

 

If it comes from you Alex i'll take it as the law. cheers mate.

 

Thanks for all the suggestions chaps looks like ill go with the clubstorts then B)

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