flyboy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) New 20" wheels chosen and tyre choice to be made. These Falken-Ohtsu Azenis FK453 275/30 ZR20 97Y XL with rim protection (MFS) BSW asymmetric BSW £ 154.90 Falken-Ohtsu Azenis FK453 245/35 ZR20 95Y XL with rim protection (MFS) BSW asymmetric BSW £ 143.90 Total amount 4 £ 597.60 or these Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA 275/30 ZR20 97Y XL with rim protection ridge (FSL) BSW BSW £ 212.70 Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA 245/35 ZR20 95Y XL with rim protection ridge (FSL) BSW BSW £ 176.90 Total amount 4 £ 779.20 IMO Sessantas look better and are nearly twice as quiet (5db) to boot but are £200 more Never going to track it but will be driven in all weather. Opinions please. Edited April 23, 2014 by flyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I really like the VUS, loads and loads of feel if not ultimate grip. For £800 though, I'd be getting the MPSS which are a billionty times better than both. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Bar Kid Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Standard price from ATS for michelin is £1000, but in store they are doing £50 off per two tyres and also £50 fuel cards per two tyres. I found last week that going in store was cheaper than online with them. They were also the cheapest I could find for the Michelin's. Helps that they are owned by them. Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Bar Kid Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) Hold on, should we be asking what type of driving he does, what's mods he has on his car, what mods he plans for his car, his age, his date of birth, chest size, inside leg measurement, hand span, mother's maiden name, starsign etc before recommending the Michelin's to him. Just don't want to anger StevoD again! Edited April 23, 2014 by The Bounty Bar Kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Try Tyreleader for Michelins, Vreds are good if Michelins too pricey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy78 Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 If you don't go for MPSS, then VUS are excellent. I've been using these for 2 years and as Dan days, they have really good feel and I've never had any issues with grip... except when it snowed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I have them too, in the wet with traction control off they will let go before mpss when pushing on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bockaaarck Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Out of the two get the Vredestein, if you can find a good price from somewhere, defo go for the MPSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daryl Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I got 4 MPSS's in 19's fitted for £900 from my local HiQ, which I thought was a good price, especially when you factor in getting the tyres delivered, then getting them to the tyre place etc etc. If you can stretch to them, then I would say you would not be disappointed, I coudnt believe how much more grip and feel they offered over the Falken 452's that I had on there previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 Hi Guys, Thanks for the input so far but These are ZR 20 tyres 20" not 19" that I have priced up. The 20" MPSS are way more expensive than these prices. This is why I have chosen these 2 as they are good value and fairly good products. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 £90 more for the MPSS would seem to be a bargain, especially considering you'll get approx 30% more miles out of them at least. But each to their own. If it were me, I'd pick the VUS out of your choice of two. Bit slippy in the wet, but loads of feedback so that may influence your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 New 20" wheels chosen and tyre choice to be made. These Falken-Ohtsu Azenis FK453 275/30 ZR20 97Y XL with rim protection (MFS) BSW asymmetric BSW £ 154.90 Falken-Ohtsu Azenis FK453 245/35 ZR20 95Y XL with rim protection (MFS) BSW asymmetric BSW £ 143.90 Total amount 4 £ 597.60 or these Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA 275/30 ZR20 97Y XL with rim protection ridge (FSL) BSW BSW £ 212.70 Vredestein ULTRAC SESSANTA 245/35 ZR20 95Y XL with rim protection ridge (FSL) BSW BSW £ 176.90 Total amount 4 £ 779.20 IMO Sessantas look better and are nearly twice as quiet (5db) to boot but are £200 more Never going to track it but will be driven in all weather. Opinions please. In order to impress Ekona, i'd go for one of each. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) IMO Sessantas look better and are nearly twice as quiet (5db) to boot but are £200 more db scale is exponential like the richter scale so if they half the db's then they'll be far far more quieter. Edited April 23, 2014 by Flex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) IMO Sessantas look better and are nearly twice as quiet (5db) to boot but are £200 more db scale is exponential like the richter scale so if they half the db's then they'll be far far more quieter. Every 3db increase doubles the volume Therefore 5db quieter will be nearly 1/3 of the volume of the louder one.. hence twice as quiet. NOT half the db Edited April 23, 2014 by flyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 £90 more for the MPSS would seem to be a bargain, especially considering you'll get approx 30% more miles out of them at least. But each to their own. If it were me, I'd pick the VUS out of your choice of two. Bit slippy in the wet, but loads of feedback so that may influence your choice. Where are MPSS £90 dearer for 20" tyres? and is this across 4 tyres or each corner? If its £90 in total then its a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 I priced them up on Camskill, and that came to a fraction under £890 including delivery. Granted, you'd need to get them fitted somewhere local, so that'll add a bit more on I admit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/275-30-zr20-97y-266069 http://www.tyreleader.co.uk/car-tyres/michelin/pilot-super-sport/245-30-zr20-90y-402682 Not that far out of what you're looking at for the Vreds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Did wonder this myself, I found a price with both 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Profile is decided by width. Many cars run different profiles front to back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Profile is decided by width. Many cars run different profiles front to back. Oh, I thought it was all done to keep the rolling radius around the same so it didn't throw the speedo out too much... Guess that shows what I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) The profile is a percentage of the std wall height which is related to the width of the tyre. The wider you go the lower profile you have to go to ensure the rolling radius of the front (narrow) and back (wide) are the same. Unless you have different diameter wheels front and back which is not unheard of ie 19" on the back and 18" on the front. Edited April 23, 2014 by flyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Griff. Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) The profile is a percentage of the std wall height which is related to the width of the tyre. Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Profile is decided by width. Many cars run different profiles front to back. Oh, I thought it was all done to keep the rolling radius around the same so it didn't throw the speedo out too much... Guess that shows what I know. It's just a percentage measurement of the width of the tyre. So a 275 / 35 / 19 tyre simply means the profile/sidewall is 35% of the width of the tyre. EDIT - Reading your post back again and then spotting someone else already answered you I'm not sure my post helped much if at all Oh well lol Edited April 23, 2014 by .Griff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted April 23, 2014 Share Posted April 23, 2014 The profile is a percentage of the std wall height which is related to the width of the tyre. Why are you running different profiles front to back? Just wondered. Profile is decided by width. Many cars run different profiles front to back. Oh, I thought it was all done to keep the rolling radius around the same so it didn't throw the speedo out too much... Guess that shows what I know. It's just a percentage measurement of the width of the tyre. So a 275 / 35 / 19 tyre simply means the profile/sidewall is 35% of the width of the tyre. Ah okay, good to have an explanation. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted April 23, 2014 Author Share Posted April 23, 2014 (edited) The profile is a percentage of the std wall height which is related to the width of the tyre. It's just a percentage measurement of the width of the tyre. So a 275 / 35 / 19 tyre simply means the profile/sidewall is 35% of the width of the tyre. "Mr Pedantic" says Actually the 35 profile means its 35% of the height of a std height tyre for that width. Not 35% of the width. Otherwise a 275 35 R20 side wall would be 96mm high Edited April 23, 2014 by flyboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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