mattbrom Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-guide/cbg_legalrights.html Thank Sarah! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This has happened before on here, the date is of registration not manufacture and sometimes cars can hang around a while before they sell new The dealer may have been under the same misconception, although most just use a generic term to sell the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrom Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 This has happened before on here, the date is of registration not manufacture and sometimes cars can hang around a while before they sell new The dealer may have been under the same misconception, although most just use a generic term to sell the car It's still been mis sold it's up to the dealer to get their facts right Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This has happened before on here, the date is of registration not manufacture and sometimes cars can hang around a while before they sell new The dealer may have been under the same misconception, although most just use a generic term to sell the car It's still been mis sold it's up to the dealer to get their facts right Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Even if he is quoting the manufacturer for that model year ? Does the buyer not have any responsibility for what he is viewing and agreeing to ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This has happened before on here, the date is of registration not manufacture and sometimes cars can hang around a while before they sell new The dealer may have been under the same misconception, although most just use a generic term to sell the car It's still been mis sold it's up to the dealer to get their facts right Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I disagree sorry mate. My 350Z is the first ever car I bought from a dealer and he had no clue what he had and just kept saying it was 'a beast'. In the end I gave him the money to shut him up and get the poor car out of there before he gave it to Jimmy the intern to go banger racing in. I think it's up to the customer to know what they are buying more than the dealer telling the customer. I once went to a japanese performance dealer and the manager had a stock toyota supra auto non turbo. He said it could do 180MPH. I left. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrom Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 But that model year came with 2 types of engine clearly. The buyer has some responsibility but the buyer is only as aware of the cars specifications from what the dealership has advertised Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hmm, but that's only the registration year mate. Daft question but is there any possibility the car was actually BUILT in like 2004??? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you believe the vehicle has been misrepresented in its sale you have case. Is the car on finance at all, finance companies love this sort of stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrom Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 Hmm, but that's only the registration year mate. Daft question but is there any possibility the car was actually BUILT in like 2004??? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Anything is possible with this car Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbrom Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you believe the vehicle has been misrepresented in its sale you have case. Is the car on finance at all, finance companies love this sort of stuff. No it's not mate it was all cash Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 If you believe the vehicle has been misrepresented in its sale you have case. Is the car on finance at all, finance companies love this sort of stuff. No it's not mate it was all cash Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Speak to the dealership, if possible visit rather than phone, put them on the spot, makes notes of dates, times, names incase you need it for future ref Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosssco Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Regardless of price (value is subjective), the car was mis-sold (perhaps inadvertently) as the revised model, when in fact it is a late registerd car. The changes weren't minor (even though they are fundamentally tweaks), so I'd say you are within rights to demand some form of resolution or compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickyZ Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'd go back and complain. Try and keep calm about it and explain it's been mis sold. Rev up should have revised front bumper, LED rear lights, different front headlights, higher quality interior and a more powerful engine. The perks of the older car are cheaper tax which you're not getting anyway and slightly more torque. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almeida1234 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 You are definitely right. Let us know what the dealer says Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 You have 30 days to reject the car (I work at a VW dealer) No you don't (I don't work at a VW dealer). Your individual dealership may offer that service (why?!), but there's no legal framework that states that. Unless you have a copy of the advert, which states clearly that it was a 300 model, then you're on a hiding to nothing here unless the dealer has a sense of honour and integrity. It'd be your word against his in court, on the balance of probabilities. You may get lucky, but you may not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh350z Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) You have 30 days to reject the car (I work at a VW dealer) No you don't (I don't work at a VW dealer). Your individual dealership may offer that service (why?!), but there's no legal framework that states that. Unless you have a copy of the advert, which states clearly that it was a 300 model, then you're on a hiding to nothing here unless the dealer has a sense of honour and integrity. It'd be your word against his in court, on the balance of probabilities. You may get lucky, but you may not. Someone posted the advert earlier, it definitely says in the header of the advert: NISSAN 350 Z 3.5 V6 300 GT 3dr Coupe Regardless of whether they knew they were wrong or not it is their BUSINESS to know what car they are selling. They are in the wrong and this car was mis-sold. Edit: Hell they even claim in the advert to be: "the UK's biggest and best Nissan 350z and 370z specialists" Edited April 22, 2014 by ajh350z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Ah yes, missed that because it wasn't the OP that posted it. However, I'm still not sure there's a case here. The V5 states the title of the car, and that's exactly what J17 put in their advert. Have they misrep'd the car? Well, possibly, but they're going to argue that they sold the car exactly as described on the DVLA system and nowhere have they said it has 300bhp or 300ps. I'm not saying it's not shady, but neither is it clear cut and a good lawyer could get them through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh350z Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I think its much more clear cut than that. As far as I'm aware there were only 3 different 350z Coupe's released in the UK. One called the 350z, one called the 350z 300 and one called the 350z 313. If the Uk's biggest and best 350z specialists can't figure out the difference between the 3 then it's time pack in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarahhp18 Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Regardless of what ppl say I think you have got a good case, even reading that link I posted up. Just go in with all your facts. Surely they would rather have a happy customer & get the problem resolved then not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Rather than listening to varying opinions of your rights from us lot, just make a call to your local Trading Standards before you approach the dealer. Firstly they will give you accurate information on your rights based on the facts and secondly you can then approach the dealer quoting trading standards which shows your not going to let it lie (if trading standards says you have cause for recourse). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 If the Uk's biggest and best 350z specialists can't figure out the difference between the 3 then it's time pack in. I think you're giving J17 too much credit As owners and experts, we can instantly tell the difference. What I'm saying is that J17 haven't anywhere advertised the car as having 300bhp: They've simply stated it's a 350Z 300, which is exactly what it's recorded as on the V5. Those are the facts, and I'm not entirely sure that a court would rule in the OPs favour. I'm playing devil's advocate a bit here somewhat, but I'm also just following things to their logical conclusion a bit too. Would I kick up a stink? Yeah, you're damn right I would, but I'd do it politely at first. Maybe even go back in a bit dumb and just get them to confirm 100% that it's got 300bhp as some people on the internet said it didn't, that kind of thing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosssco Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 (edited) If the Uk's biggest and best 350z specialists can't figure out the difference between the 3 then it's time pack in. I think you're giving J17 too much credit As owners and experts, we can instantly tell the difference. What I'm saying is that J17 haven't anywhere advertised the car as having 300bhp: They've simply stated it's a 350Z 300, which is exactly what it's recorded as on the V5. Those are the facts, and I'm not entirely sure that a court would rule in the OPs favour. I'm playing devil's advocate a bit here somewhat, but I'm also just following things to their logical conclusion a bit too. Would I kick up a stink? Yeah, you're damn right I would, but I'd do it politely at first. Maybe even go back in a bit dumb and just get them to confirm 100% that it's got 300bhp as some people on the internet said it didn't, that kind of thing. You're correct, and agree with you're advised course of action, but no one is saying it should have 300bhp or was advertised as such, but it was advertised as the 350Z 300 model, which is sufficiently different (as is the 313 model) to the previous model to warrant a difference to the DVLA, therefore its been mis-sold. Buying a used car is a minefield as we all know, and the buyer has to know their stuff to an extent, but especially when buying from a dealer (irrespective whether they say they are a specialst or not), I feel some responsibility lies with them.. I would say one thing dealers are usually clued up on (even if it isn't cars) is their rights when it comes to buyer / sellers. Edited April 22, 2014 by Rosssco 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 You've only yourself to blame, unfortunately. Yes the dealer did advertise is as a 300ps model, but you should have checked. I don't know if the V5 states it's a 300 or Revup like people have mentioned here, I think they are only assuming based on one of your requests, but if it does, then the dealer will argue his case quite strongly. You seem to be very annoyed that you're car is the earlier version and I think you said earlier that you specifically wanted the Revup. But you haven't a clue of the differences. You've had the car a week and been happy, only now you're pi**ed because we told you it's a 280. There are several threads on here talking about the differences between the 3 variants, if you'd spent 5 minutes looking at them you'd have saved yourself a lot of trouble. But don't worry, there have been worse cases. Recently someone found out their HR wasn't an HR and it's a completely different engine to the first 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg tl Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Mine is one of the last DEs registered on the 25/04/2006. same day as my Birthday so my Zed and I will share a bottle together..! Believe the Revup was from May 2006. Will, we need to bury the hatchet. My little girls birthday is the same as yours, so you must have something good about you!! Happy birthday for friday! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Two things, 1 - Take a screen shot of that advert, because once you go to fight this, there is nothing stopping them from editing it. 2 - Surly is someone was selling a Rev-Up Model, They'd advertise it in the title as a 'Rev-Up' ..... I'd of been a bit wary if it was me, as I've just done a google search for 350z 300 gt - And there are a couple of HR's that come up with the same title. Maybe it's just me, but if I wanted a specific model, I would of done the research to find out what makes that model, that model. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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