theheff Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 And with the mpss, it's the all round performance that is the key. The falkens were switchy as **** in the wet. The mpss were planted all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) yea anything like that and im not saying mpss are @*!# just im seeing all these professional international drifters going into corners at 100mph sideways and putting the cars where they want time after time on tyres like feredal maxxis kenda falken etc and never once does any one here them say they need more grip or more control, there putting there cars inches from each other with loads of confidence in there tyre not thats its going to mean alot to people but possibly the world #1 drifter Daigo Saito runs Achillies tyres on all his competition cars Edited April 4, 2014 by StevoD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Potentially ignorant post here but is the control while drifting not mainly down to the throttle control and steering more than grip provided by the tyres. Ie controlled skidding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 to quote Vaughn Gittin JR "If you dont have confidence in your tyre you have nothing" NItto tyres drift team unlike the cars you see drifting in the uk like santa pod etc were style is 90% the cars run excessive camber etc to fit there "gangsta" fitment wheels, you look at a pro Formula Drift/ Drift muscle/ BDC/ Allstars car there set up to prove as much grip as possible, you do steer with the throttle but if you dont have grip you cant if that make sense seriously qualifying is live now http://www.formulad.com/live/ look at what tyres some of the pros are running and what there doing with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorg4 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 TBH I think many modern cars have too much grip, which means you have to be going much quicker to have fun. There's a lot to be said for having a bit less grip and just driving a bit more slowly while still having fun. Obviously this doesn't apply if you're competing and faster is always better. Of course that doesn't mean you should buy Teflon tyres, as there's a trade off with everything. But as long as the tyres are communicative and progressive when they start to let go, I believe you don't need to have the ultimate grip available at all times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorg4 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Before the flaming starts, I do fit premium tyres to my cars (e.g. Goodyear Eagle F1 Assym 2) but my point was more around having ever wider and lower profile tyres translating to more mechanical grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 No, you're absolutely right, it's why I deliberately put awful tyres on the MX-5. There's a lot to be said for having low grip limits on a car with naff-all power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) No, you're absolutely right, it's why I deliberately put awful tyres on the MX-5. There's a lot to be said for having low grip limits on a car with naff-all power. Edited April 5, 2014 by StevoD 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theheff Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmorg4 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 (edited) No, you're absolutely right, it's why I deliberately put awful tyres on the MX-5. There's a lot to be said for having low grip limits on a car with naff-all power. Funny you should mention that. A mate of mine recently bought an old MX-5 as a toy and to take on drift days etc. It has an LSD fitted and rather crappy tyres, I took it for a spin and what a hoot to drive! You can get the back end out with very little effort, at low speeds, and it's very easy to control. Feels a bit like a slow motion version of the back end stepping out on the Z. This topic reminds me of a Chris Harris video where he put four space saver wheels on an AMG Mercedes then drifted it around a track! Extreme example, but he was proving the point of how less can be more where driving enjoyment is concerned. Edited April 6, 2014 by pmorg4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I remember the days when Grand Prix S 165/70/13 were the dogs knob on yer cortina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyZ Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Michelin Pilot Super Sports £221 for the rears at Camskill. That's what I would be putting on if I was keeping the car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Tyreleader have the MPSS for the rear at £150 & pennies today so 2 ordered, fitting not included in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJRamze Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Tyreleader have the MPSS for the rear at £150 & pennies today so 2 ordered, fitting not included in that. Thats really cheap. I currently have ditchfinders on my 350 as fitted by the wonderful garage I bought it from I'm considering buying a set and putting them on the credit card! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 This represents a big change for me but at that price!! Been a Vredstein devotee for years now, so hope I've done the right thing having been swayed by opinions on here. Heh ho, as they say in Yokrshire, it'll be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Just in case anyone is cautious re Tyreleader, came in at £301 for the 2 rear MPSS, ordered over bank hol w/e, shipped from Netherlands & delivered to a back street dive in Bradford in 3 days. Good service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brayster Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I had bridgestones on the front of mine when I bought it and then jumping at low speed on full lock was awful..... Do mpss's do this? I have continentals on the back and to be fair can't complain... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Ackermann principle in full effect, I'm afraid. Perfectly normal, all cars with large wheels and low suspension with a wide front end (i.e. every sports car ever) does this to some extent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robin c Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 +1 on Tyreleader. I ordered F+R MPSS for the 370z. 3 day turnaround from Holland and good order tracking via courier. Glad to be back on my rubber of choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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