Madhatter Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Help! SOS! Been doing a few bits to car and all been working fine and starting/running fine. Unfortunately battery went dead in lockup - recharged and battery all good, however now the car won't start It cranks but no go . Checked obd - no codes or errors, all clean. Tried engine start - worked! So checked fuel pump and wasn't sure so replaced (def works). Tried again but no joy - tried both keys and nothing - just crank and that's it. All leccys working fine, wipers, lights, air con, doors lock and open all fine. Any ideas or help much appreciated! Read I'm desperate and willing to do most things hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyG8nby Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Immobiliser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 do you hear a clicking when trying to start and if so is it slow or fast video might help 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 (edited) do you hear a clicking when trying to start and if so is it slow or fast video might help Good point I know this might sound daft but disconnect and leave 5 minutes then reconnect the battery. If that doesn't cure it check fuses and relays, especially the block which you have to unclip and pull back to get the battery in and out. Zed's can be a bit temperamental when a battery runs flat and is then replaced. Edited March 27, 2014 by choptop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 I know this might sound daft but disconnect and leave 5 minutes then reconnect the battery. I was going to suggest exactly the same thing, had the same problem/fix when my battery died. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 If the above doesn't work can you confirm what works you did before it would no longer start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 Also check all your grounding points are in place and done up to torque/secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted March 27, 2014 Author Share Posted March 27, 2014 Thanks all! Going to try a few things and will then report back. Fitted new rocker cam (passenger side), grounding kit, cosworth plenum, pop charger, carbon intake pipe as well as two power cables through bulkhead for amps and aux. weirdly though cars has been started and running since I thought immobiliser but Nats light does go out on key turn...weird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 We're are located aswell if close don't mind poping over and helping u getting it going Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted March 31, 2014 Author Share Posted March 31, 2014 Hi all Bit of an update - went down lockup Saturday and tried a load of things but still no joy. Ripped out all fuses and back in, checked all grounding points including grounding kit and all looks good. Checked all fittings in engine. Checked battery and connectors - reading a healthy 12.6 v. Now started playing with keys and doors! The master key locks and sets up alarm (in door) but I get a long buzzing noise from boot. When I then unlock with key and open driver door alarm goes off. Remote works perfect to lock/unlock and no issue at all. Second key completely dead - does nothing. Meanwhile passenger door also does nothing - if I open or close alarm is unaffected and I don't get the open door chime. Also the courtesy light does nothing - but switches in/off fine. Starting to think Nats has gone bonkers or the bcm ? Module is ill? Def no smell of fuel anywhere so engine is def being starved I'm located in cardiff, South Wales so Sod's law probably miles away from everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 Well as this thread has somewhat died but I've still got problem I'll try and update with any news in case anyone else ever gets it. So on Saturday I'll be down the lockup again and plan to try the ECU, bcm and key resets and go from there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 have you left the battery disconnected ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Tried battery disconnect, bcm reset, key fobs reset and ECU reset - no joy! Looks like I need to get my immobiliser PIN number?!?! And reprogram keys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Have u gone through all your fuses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 is it still cranking but not firing?? might be worth checking the fuel pump relay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 Yep - cranks but def no fuel. Changed fuel pump but no joy - will check fuel relay. What's interesting is the remotes no longer work but keys open and close and crank car. Meanwhile when locking car their is a buzzer noise in the boot and when I unlock the car with key alarm goes..... Must be immobiliser but no idea what, why or how to fix, what issue is, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 The key not working shouldn't be a problem with starting as the alarm is done by the key and there is a little chip in the car that disables the immobilizer so looks like a few problems Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 ok so though i would see what happens when trying to start the car without the nats chip in the key is this anything like what urs is doing?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted April 9, 2014 Author Share Posted April 9, 2014 Thanks Mike - your help on this is seriously appreciated! That video above is exactly what I'm getting down to the "t" - flickering lights, no start up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 ok when you put the key in and turn it to the on position dose the red light on your dash go out ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted April 10, 2014 Share Posted April 10, 2014 I now what I an about to suggest will cost £ but may be worth getting an auto electrician to look at it. You could spend ages trying to find the fault and still get nowhere. Best of luck with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhatter Posted April 15, 2014 Author Share Posted April 15, 2014 Eureka! well sort of! I've found the cause and last night she was back to life (admittedly a temp solution but one I can work with). It seems that the ignition live to the fuel pump doesn't want to work and provides exactly the same conditions as a NATS issue. I made up my own ignition live direct to fuel pump and viola car came to life. I was then able to reset the key fob to work perfectly and the whole car opens/closes/alarms/knocks off alarm all fine!!! So now I need to check the continuity of the ignition live to the fuel pump (including the relay). A massive thanks to everyone for helping - in particular Madmikester who stuck by me through the search!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmikester Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 No problem mate happy u got this all fixed Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Good work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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