WhackyWill Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 well, depends on the age of the car, and the size of the blowers.... but i cannot believe that a 2 litre turbo lump making 300plus bhp isnt horrendously laggy, or that the turbo isnt out of puff at high rpm. my old 300zx only used ickle turbos (two of 'em) to make a measly 9psi of boost, but the torque still dropped off a cliff after 5000rpm... hence why the RX7 of the same era had a sequential turbo setup. but modern stuff with variable vane geometry and so on will be a lot better, but i'd be very surprised if any turbo car makes a torque curve as flat as a zeds. I wound up the turbo to the last notch on the Saab and fitted a water injection kit...there was nothing there below 2000 RPM. Then Bang the turbo came in like you just turned on a switch up to 5500 RPM, terrible around town, but keep that turbo spinning and not a lot would beat it for that era of car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Wow. It really does surprise me! I've had the car maybe a few months max, and with work and a wife that hates fast driving I haven't really had any chance to give it a proper drive. But yesterday I thought I should see what she's made up. Being a 2004 early model I'm guessing it only had 276BHP is it...? I say only but it seemed more than quick enough to me! The power is instant and rapid, and cruising along in 2nd at say 30 or so when you slam that right foot down you reach license wrecking speeds in no time. I was amazed to see how fast I was going at a few points to be honest. Guess it depends on what you are used to driving but I went from a diesel golf to a 313 zed and was quite underwhelmed by the performance. Sure, it was quick, but it just didnt feel as quick as I expected. I guess the last proper "quick" car I had before my zed was a 220bhp Renault 5 GT Turbo which would do 0-80 as quick as you could change gear and literally violently throw you back in your seats when the hybrid turbo kicked in. Im also used to sports bikes like my R1 etc. So maybe for me a NA "quick" car just didnt have the right feel. Saying that, my 123d does 0-60 in 6.2 seconds which is only less than half a second slower than a zed and that too doesnt feel quick until you look at the speedo and think "christ i didnt realise i was doing that speed", so maybe its just me! I always bring this up but my old EP3 Type R felt much faster than the Z, however if put in a drag the Z would probably win. I find It's all about how the Z puts the power down, it has no drama, just smooth progressive acceleration through the revs. It's deffinately one of those cars where you dont realize how fast your actually going in it. It's actually my biggest gripe with the Z, in stock form it's a little boring for a sports car (in my opinion of course). Oh don't say that, I'm getting rid of my EP3 Type R as it just feels so slow. Amazing on track as you are always in VTEC but everyday driving it is just slow. Top of my list as replacement is either a 350z or Impreza STi so I hope the 350z doesn't feel slow as I will be gutted. I am used to a 300bhp Impreza WRX and an Elise S1 so I might be a bit spoilt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Oh don't say that, I'm getting rid of my EP3 Type R as it just feels so slow. Amazing on track as you are always in VTEC but everyday driving it is just slow. Top of my list as replacement is either a 350z or Impreza STi so I hope the 350z doesn't feel slow as I will be gutted. I am used to a 300bhp Impreza WRX and an Elise S1 so I might be a bit spoilt. Before the Zed my most recent car was a 2003 EP3 Civic Type R but before that I've had a JDM classic Impreza WRX (dyno @295bhp), Golf VR6, ST24 and various other relatively fast cars. To me the Zed is definitely the best car I've owned to date and does not feel slow at all. When driven hard, foot to the floor changing gear at every shift light point you can very quickly get up to some serious licence losing speeds. Yes it's very different from my old Civic which felt great when wound up above 6000rpm in VTEC and it doesn't have the pin you in your seat effect of a turbo boost like my old Impreza but still it's a deceptively quick vehicle. For me I just love the linear power of the Zed and incredible torque in pretty much any gear at any speed. Seriously Linus27 I think you really should go for a good test drive before you truly make up your mind. Remember as well that people who have owned these cars for a while will have gotten used to the power/acceleration available just like you do with any car really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linus27 Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Oh don't say that, I'm getting rid of my EP3 Type R as it just feels so slow. Amazing on track as you are always in VTEC but everyday driving it is just slow. Top of my list as replacement is either a 350z or Impreza STi so I hope the 350z doesn't feel slow as I will be gutted. I am used to a 300bhp Impreza WRX and an Elise S1 so I might be a bit spoilt. Before the Zed my most recent car was a 2003 EP3 Civic Type R but before that I've had a JDM classic Impreza WRX (dyno @295bhp), Golf VR6, ST24 and various other relatively fast cars. To me the Zed is definitely the best car I've owned to date and does not feel slow at all. When driven hard, foot to the floor changing gear at every shift light point you can very quickly get up to some serious licence losing speeds. Yes it's very different from my old Civic which felt great when wound up above 6000rpm in VTEC and it doesn't have the pin you in your seat effect of a turbo boost like my old Impreza but still it's a deceptively quick vehicle. For me I just love the linear power of the Zed and incredible torque in pretty much any gear at any speed. Seriously Linus27 I think you really should go for a good test drive before you truly make up your mind. Remember as well that people who have owned these cars for a while will have gotten used to the power/acceleration available just like you do with any car really. Thanks GMballistic and yes, I do need to test drive one first. Thankfully, I still have my WRX and S1 so can compare pretty much back to back. The thing I hate about the EP3 is the lack of torque. I think it only has something like 145bhp before 6k revs so when you put your foot down, not a lot happens until you hit VTEC. In comparison, the S1 just flies, the WRX obviously does and even my wife's 1990 1.6 MX5 pulls nicely through all the gears so if the 350z has nice torque low down then I will be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted March 21, 2014 Share Posted March 21, 2014 Lot's of low down torque from the Zed imo. Just eats up all the hills I put in front of it here in Wales anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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