Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Nice one, ta mate. Im assuming that the dodo juice 30ml panel pots are as they say and only good for a few coats on one panel? Or would it cover an entire car? Also Poorboys Nattys Paste Wax looks quite good and over 400ml only costs £12 or so via ebay? Would this be a good wax to use after I've polished the car using the Scratch X? Edited February 5, 2014 by Darren350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 My DJSN panel pot lasted me almost two years, and that was doing cars multiple times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ah right, it's just the Purple Haze panel pot is only £6 and that sounds very cheap to be able to give the Zed a few coats? Shan't complain though and will hit the buy it now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Get the DJSN, it really is massively worth the extra cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIXXERUK Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Get the DJSN, it really is massively worth the extra cash. +1. Couldn't agree more, used both and DJSN is much much better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well at £6 I'll buy both lol. Can you do a coat of DJPH then a coat of DJSN??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 You can, but there's no point. A single coat of a wax is enough, if done correctly. Multiple coats are pointless unless you can leave 12 hours or more between them to allow the first layer to fully cure. Remember, wax is 99% for protection, and just 1% for extra shinyness.* *made up figures, but you get the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ah right, sod more than one layer then lol. Ive got arriving the following: DJ Lube and Clay Bar Meguiars Scratch X 2.0 DJ Purple Haze That should see me right I'm hoping! Any decent and affordable Quick Detailer spray waxes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Ah right, sod more than one layer then lol. Ive got arriving the following: DJ Lube and Clay Bar Meguiars Scratch X 2.0 DJ Purple Haze That should see me right I'm hoping! Any decent and affordable Quick Detailer spray waxes? The best spray sealer/wax on the market which isn't stupid money is this by Carpro. it blows everything out of the park by miles, Ive got a bottle of the Acrylic spritz by dodo juice and it doesn't come close car pro reload. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140961565165?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 I personally don't really rate Dodo juice supernatural. I find it doesn't have a very long life, after a few weeks mine used to stop beading, I switched to autoglym HD wax and its miles better. Goes on easier, comes off easier, cheaper, has a great shine and if you give it 2 coats will still be beading like crazy for 2-3 months. DDSN might have changed their formula since i had it (been about 3 years) so i don't know if its improved, but i won't be going back to it. Edited February 5, 2014 by 350 Russ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The DJ lube is a QD, so you can just use that. Spray wax is different than a QD, any product that claims to do both is lying and compromises on both. A QD is used as a lubricant, whether that's for clay or for a quick wipe over when or to get rid of bird crap (you'll mark the paint a bit, but that's better than a paint stain from acid poo!). A spray wax is IMHO a very cheap and poor substitute for a proper wax, although it's much easier to use. Of course, I'm now going to totally contradict myself and mention things like DJ Red Mist, and the equivalent from Blackfire (both of which I use), which do add gloss and beading and can be used as a QD. Expensive way to do it though, and much better to have a cheaper separate QD. I use a 5L tub of the Megs Last Touch, cheap as chips and lasts for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Thanks mate. I'm not too fussed about car shampoo as I'll be claying the car after the first wash / before the second wash. Should I get a better shampoo or stick with my bog standard stuff for now? Thanks for everybodys help so far, I've bought everything based on the advice on this thread lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Remind me again what shampoo you have now? Although tbh as long it's not fairy liquid anything will be okay. You really don't need to do another wash after claying though, it really is overkill and just wastes time as you'll then have to dry the car as well before starting polishing. Actually, do yourself a favour and grab yourself a huge drying towel like this one, as it will make your life sooooo much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Its just a generic carnauba wash I use mate, cost about 3 quid a few years ago lol. I have always used a chamois to dry, is that not good enough in this day and age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Its just a generic carnauba wash I use mate, cost about 3 quid a few years ago lol. I have always used a chamois to dry, is that not good enough in this day and age? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 the problem with a chamois is that your in effect rubbing a flat surface over your paint work and if there is and specs of dirt of grit on the chamois then it will be scratching your paint and creating swirl marks which kill any shine your paint will have. Microfibre towels like the one posted above have a deep grain of pile which traps dirt and pulls it away from your paintwork so should reduce a lot of the swirl marks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Chamois is the devil's drying device. 'Orrible things, or at least every one I've ever used is: The £200 ones might be pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I use the equivalent of these when drying the car - http://www.envyvaleting.co.uk/products_info.asp?id=164 and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/380657521811?hlpht=true&ops=true&viphx=1&lpid=95&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=95&ff19=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Just bought an extra large 5ft sq car drying towel off of ebay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Just had my backup clay bar arrive in the post! Bigger than I thought. Just need the rest of the stuff and a sunny day now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 7, 2014 Author Share Posted February 7, 2014 DJ lube and DJ clay bar have arrived! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 16, 2014 Author Share Posted February 16, 2014 Guys, the dealer clearly had no clue how to use a machine polisher properly leaving me with LOTS of holograms. Numpty lol Will a claying, polishing and waxing rectify this or am I best getting a professional detailer to sort it out for me so that I have a decent base car to clay etc? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 You'll never repair machine damage without using another machine, unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Ah right. Well I don't want to do it myself as I will probably make it worse! Haha Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 or am I best getting a professional detailer to sort it out for me so that I have a decent base car to clay etc? You would clay before polishing so getting a pro. detailer to "sort it" should include claying as part of the pre-polish cleanse routine. You certainly wouldn't then clay it again after polishing (well, not for another 6 months or so), and you should be aware that clay can itself mar the paint so it may need polishing again after you've clayed it. You might want to consider a filling glaze in the mean time. If you want to have a crack at it yourself, you can (not necessarily will) get a half decent finish polishing by hand (it certainly won't be perfect though as Ekona mentioned), you could then use a filler heavy glaze to hide the remaining swirls before sealing and/or waxing. Obviously this option is a temporary measure as the swirls will still be there when then glaze wears off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren350 Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 or am I best getting a professional detailer to sort it out for me so that I have a decent base car to clay etc? You would clay before polishing so getting a pro. detailer to "sort it" should include claying as part of the pre-polish cleanse routine. You certainly wouldn't then clay it again after polishing (well, not for another 6 months or so), and you should be aware that clay can itself mar the paint so it may need polishing again after you've clayed it. You might want to consider a filling glaze in the mean time. If you want to have a crack at it yourself, you can (not necessarily will) get a half decent finish polishing by hand (it certainly won't be perfect though as Ekona mentioned), you could then use a filler heavy glaze to hide the remaining swirls before sealing and/or waxing. Obviously this option is a temporary measure as the swirls will still be there when then glaze wears off. Hmm, I ideally want a permanent solution and fix so a filling glaze isn't really an option. And I don't fancy using a machine myself as clearly even the dealer didn't know what they were doing so I would only make things worse. Alot worse hahaha It may sound daft but do ding master etc not use machines to polish etc after they've sorted out a nasty dent or anything? Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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