Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Blocky, does it not ever occur to you why so many people challenge/argue/disagree with you on such a regular basis? Even ioneabee, it would seem, has had enough now which is saying something as he is one of the most polite and mild mannered people you could wish to meet. You, of course, might be too (I don't know because I haven't met you) but that certainly isn't the way you present yourself on here, sadly all too frequently. I know if I was part of the clique and sucked up yes I would be "liked" more. But my opinion differs from others I see that as no bad thing. I don't use bad language, threats or insults to get my point across. So I personally don't see the problem other than my views don't "fit" with what people want. Can you honestly tell me wills posts/threads arent allways about foreigners being a certain way. Post what you like on a public forum but then don't moan if your called on your rubbish IMO. Also I am actually helpful on the forum when people have problems with their car. There is only a handful of us like that tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 dblock, if you dont agree with the OPs post, why not just leave it rather than attacking his credibility 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will370z Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The only thing valuable to them is their time and i am more than happy to waste it for them if i have nothing better to do. I strung 2 people along this way over the Christmas period when they tried to pull this off on my parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Don't have much time so I've got to be quick I think glrnet wants to ban me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Blocky, does it not ever occur to you why so many people challenge/argue/disagree with you on such a regular basis? Even ioneabee, it would seem, has had enough now which is saying something as he is one of the most polite and mild mannered people you could wish to meet. You, of course, might be too (I don't know because I haven't met you) but that certainly isn't the way you present yourself on here, sadly all too frequently. I know if I was part of the clique and sucked up yes I would be "liked" more. But my opinion differs from others I see that as no bad thing. I don't use bad language, threats or insults to get my point across. So I personally don't see the problem other than my views don't "fit" with what people want. Can you honestly tell me wills posts/threads arent allways about foreigners being a certain way. Post what you like on a public forum but then don't moan if your called on your rubbish IMO. Also I am actually helpful on the forum when people have problems with their car. There is only a handful of us like that tbh. Nobody is disagreeing that differing opinions aren't good things, it's nothing to do with your views either. And if you think we actually worry about whose views fit and whose don't you are sadly mistaken. As Mike said, if you don't like it ignore it. You actually are helpful, as are many others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Don't have much time so I've got to be quick I think glrnet wants to ban me As you would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Don't have much time so I've got to be quick I think glrnet wants to ban me As you would say Bit of fun hence the little laugh face. :-) Also I would never use that yawn smile. I'd say cool story bro or put a sarcastic meme up I feel like you don't even know me sometimes Edited January 14, 2014 by Dblock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HARMLU Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 "dog with a bone" comes to mind. Best thing to do it ignore it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 The team decide what is allowable for the good of the forum and believe me, we dont often disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Don't have much time so I've got to be quick I think glrnet wants to ban me As you would say Bit of fun hence the little laugh face. :-) Also I would never use that yawn smile. I'd say cool story bro or put a sarcastic meme up I feel like you don't even know me sometimes Not sure if calling me a liar on an open forum is a bit of fun, but each to their own... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 not even in your fist letter Is that some sort of threat? A fist letter? Like a knuckle sandwich? lol Not funny Neil he said pm stood for punching message ROFL ! You were quick I'll give you that! I had to reread to catch the joke Don't have much time so I've got to be quick I think glrnet wants to ban me As you would say Bit of fun hence the little laugh face. :-) Also I would never use that yawn smile. I'd say cool story bro or put a sarcastic meme up I feel like you don't even know me sometimes Not sure if calling me a liar on an open forum is a bit of fun, but each to their own... You see, I never resort to name calling, swearing or insults as above. Yet I'm the bad one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 (edited) so what do you reckon they've installed - laptops on its way over to my place as I type Probably and hopefully nothing. What I understand is that to prove there is a problem they ask you to open the control panel, open the administration applet then the event viewer. This shows all the errors and believe me there'll be hundreds of them even on a healthy computer. They then offer to clear this mess up for you with some completely useless anti-virus program...not as bad as ransomware its more like scareware really but its a scam, originates from India. Pete Edited January 14, 2014 by JetSet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 except that she actually gave over control to him and he was opening and closing stuff as she watched Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 except that she actually gave over control to him and he was opening and closing stuff as she watched Yes, I'm obviously behind the times, it has been a few years since I researched this. http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2011/mar/01/microsoft-virus-scam-continues Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 except that she actually gave over control to him and he was opening and closing stuff as she watched Yes, I'm obviously behind the times, it has been a few years since I researched this. http://www.theguardi...-scam-continues Pete Thanks Pete for putting this up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting that some people simply accept the idea that Microsoft have agents proactively monitoring all windows machines across the globe (the numbers must be huge), ready to alert them to slow running/malware/any other dreamed up negative impact. It seems like an obvious scam, but not simply because I'm relatively interested in tech compared to some, just simply because I wouldn't generally accept at face value any kind of unsolicited advice, be it, web, phone or a knock at the door. I'd be very intrigued to know the success rate of something like this from the caller's point of view, even more so to know what percent of victims never even know they've been scammed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Unless they got the scamed person to install some software such as team viewer, logme in etc how do they take control of the computer, opening and closing stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting that some people simply accept the idea that Microsoft have agents proactively monitoring all windows machines across the globe (the numbers must be huge), ready to alert them to slow running/malware/any other dreamed up negative impact. It seems like an obvious scam, but not simply because I'm relatively interested in tech compared to some, just simply because I wouldn't generally accept at face value any kind of unsolicited advice, be it, web, phone or a knock at the door. I'd be very intrigued to know the success rate of something like this from the caller's point of view, even more so to know what percent of victims never even know they've been scammed. I would say about 25%, its not only the initial money they take off you, its the amount they scam off your credit card when you give them the details... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Unless they got the scamed person to install some software such as team viewer, logme in etc how do they take control of the computer, opening and closing stuff? Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting that some people simply accept the idea that Microsoft have agents proactively monitoring all windows machines across the globe (the numbers must be huge), ready to alert them to slow running/malware/any other dreamed up negative impact. It seems like an obvious scam, but not simply because I'm relatively interested in tech compared to some, just simply because I wouldn't generally accept at face value any kind of unsolicited advice, be it, web, phone or a knock at the door. I'd be very intrigued to know the success rate of something like this from the caller's point of view, even more so to know what percent of victims never even know they've been scammed. I would say about 25%, its not only the initial money they take off you, its the amount they scam off your credit card when you give them the details... That seems a tad high. Selling financial products with "warm" leads did well to hit 25% sales when I worked there, and that's targeting people who are actively seeking the products you're peddling and expecting a call, not a cold call. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted January 14, 2014 Author Share Posted January 14, 2014 Interesting that some people simply accept the idea that Microsoft have agents proactively monitoring all windows machines across the globe (the numbers must be huge), ready to alert them to slow running/malware/any other dreamed up negative impact. It seems like an obvious scam, but not simply because I'm relatively interested in tech compared to some, just simply because I wouldn't generally accept at face value any kind of unsolicited advice, be it, web, phone or a knock at the door. I'd be very intrigued to know the success rate of something like this from the caller's point of view, even more so to know what percent of victims never even know they've been scammed. I would say about 25%, its not only the initial money they take off you, its the amount they scam off your credit card when you give them the details... That seems a tad high. Selling financial products with "warm" leads did well to hit 25% sales when I worked there, and that's targeting people who are actively seeking the products you're peddling and expecting a call, not a cold call. Probably right Stu, even if they get 5 to 10% hit rate they are not doing bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Unless they got the scamed person to install some software such as team viewer, logme in etc how do they take control of the computer, opening and closing stuff? Anyone? You can allow anybody to access your PC by going into Remote Access programme and ticking the box "Allow Remote Access" and your computer is now under the control of the person you allowed to access your computer. To allow someone to connect to your computer using Remote Desktop Connection Open System by clicking the Start button , right-clicking Computer, and then clicking Properties. In the left pane, click Remote settings. If you're prompted for an administrator password or confirmation, type the password or provide confirmation. Under Remote Desktop, select one of the options to allow connections. For more information about these options, see What types of Remote Desktop connections should I allow FRIGHTENING ISN'T IT..SO SIMPLE..(I have not put up all this post for obvious reasons..!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyboy Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 OMG they have built it in??? Never used to happen with 3.11 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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