Suits Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Never driven a go kart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Never driven a go kart. You haven't lived... :scare: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suits Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Never driven a go kart. You haven't lived... :scare: Yeah, I know, I keep getting told that but EVERYONE. I sort of skipped that and just went straight into doing it in cars. That said, I'm sure I could learn a lot from some karting time but I'd rather use the money to do it in my own car. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Go karts don't have ABS, or assisted braking. In that sense, it's easier to LFB in an F1 car than an Audi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 LFB is so natural in a kart, feels so weird in a car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 LFB is so natural in a kart, feels so weird in a car Only because you don't have a choice in a kart, left foot brake or crash...!!! :scare: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 LFB is so natural in a kart, feels so weird in a car Only because you don't have a choice in a kart, left foot brake or crash...!!! :scare: I hear you, I love to kart, but as soon as I get in a car my left foot only does up and down, no finesse. In a kart it just feels right. I guess for me it's like footy, left foot for standing on, right for skillz. Given some private road and someone else's car, I'm sure it's learnable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 LFB is so natural in a kart, feels so weird in a car Only because you don't have a choice in a kart, left foot brake or crash...!!! :scare: I hear you, I love to kart, but as soon as I get in a car my left foot only does up and down, no finesse. In a kart it just feels right. I guess for me it's like footy, left foot for standing on, right for skillz. Given some private road and someone else's car, I'm sure it's learnable. But you already agree you can USE left foot braking with finesse, just transfer that learning to your car, if your choice was crashing in your car or using your redundant left foot to hit the brakes ask your subsconscious what it would do..! :surrender: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Next youtube video up tomorrow, Grundy crashes Zed after trying this 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suits Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 If you spin, two feet in. LFB is just to stabilise the car under HEAVY breaking with a big load. In my eyes it suits FWD cars better anyway as you tend to approach corners in a different way, well I do anyway. RWD in slow out fast, FWD just in fast out fast, lol. Like I said, it's not something I tend to actively do, so I hardly know how best to apply it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Next youtube video up tomorrow, Grundy crashes Zed after trying this I am putting up disclaimers of : "Please don't try this at home or on a public highway" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Next youtube video up tomorrow, Grundy crashes Zed after trying this I am putting up disclaimers of : "Please don't try this at home or on a public highway" sorry but the disclaimer is too late! You are now liable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Next youtube video up tomorrow, Grundy crashes Zed after trying this I am putting up disclaimers of : "Please don't try this at home or on a public highway" sorry but the disclaimer is too late! You are now liable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well so be it, .at least we will get a few cheap spares on here.. :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Next youtube video up tomorrow, Grundy crashes Zed after trying this I am putting up disclaimers of : "Please don't try this at home or on a public highway" sorry but the disclaimer is too late! You are now liable Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Well so be it, .at least we will get a few cheap spares on here.. :thumbs: Tried it this morning, gave up! Maybe my feet are odd shaped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizurd Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I find it a bit easier with the 380rs pedal fitted to my zed. It's still gonna take me a while before I am confident with it. Like others have said I kind of roll my foot on to the accelerator to get the blip. I tend to blip even changing down to accelerate. Way I see it is that it's all practice. Does make me smile when it's a perfect match plus the sound Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I've been doing it since I learned to drive. It puts less stress on drive train, and also prevents any potential lockus or destabilising the car meaning you keep more control over the car, especially when braking and getting ready for a corner. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I tend to heel toe a lot of the time, especially fast roundabouts on dual carriageways just makes for much smoother gear changes. So much easier with a 380RS pedal though, OEM was very difficult to heel toe on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cs2000 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I cant do it, tried several times and I just give up. Wish there was some kind of mod you could do the mimicked the auto rev matching you get in other cars such as the 370. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Could buy an RS pedal - it has a lip on the edge to make throttle blipping easier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 You will never go fast on a track day unless you learn how to heel and toe, Disagree, I sometimes H+T but when Im REALLY going for it I revert back to 1 foot on each, gives me more control over braking and I dont find it slows me down any. Also not found LFB much use other than when drifting but that might be a style thing I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arran Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I find you don't have to use the heel and toe just brake enough then change down and rev match 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth29 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I find heeling and toeing really awkward in the z unless I'm giving it some stick - the revs flare too easily at low road speeds and result in a worse shift than if i'd not bothered! Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereboy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I tried this tonight on the way home from work haha. I can just about manage it, it takes me so long to do at the moment a normal down shift is quicker. Do you need to keep the revs up the whole time or can you let them dip once the clutch is pressed and blip the throttle when the clutch is down? I guess it probably doesn't make too much difference, I did notice the car doesn't jerk or anything when doing this which I guess is the whole point. I'm a proper driving noob incase you couldn't tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yampiedog Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Sustained gear changing is something I learnt at a driver trainer course. This is for changing down and you increase revs as clutch is out to match what the lower gear would be at and allows smooth change ready to accelerate again. This is better for the clutch and drivetrain as it surely must reduce stresses and strains all round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizurd Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I tried this tonight on the way home from work haha. I can just about manage it, it takes me so long to do at the moment a normal down shift is quicker. Do you need to keep the revs up the whole time or can you let them dip once the clutch is pressed and blip the throttle when the clutch is down? I guess it probably doesn't make too much difference, I did notice the car doesn't jerk or anything when doing this which I guess is the whole point. I'm a proper driving noob incase you couldn't tell. I just dip the clutch. As it's going down and it's free I blip the throttle so that as I lift the clutch it engages as the revs hit the right point. So no holding the revs at a certain point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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