wmr1980 Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 (edited) Well probably not... However, I',m trying to decide between Milltek and Invidia. I'd have HFCs as well (If I'm doing it I might aswell go the whole hog!) Has anyone here got a combo of Milltek + HFC or Invidia + HFC. And which HFC works best with both? I see invidia do their own HFCs too... Decisions decisions!! IT won't be till next year - but I want to keep an eye on things.... Happy to hear opinions and ideas. Edited November 19, 2013 by wmr1980 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JordanHill Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I have the milltek however no hfc.. Great exhaust sound and ive heard the hfc make it even better! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Not the answer you're after but may be an Idea, I'm going custom exhaust next week with De-Cats. With the Custom exhaust you can have it built to exact fitment to the car and spec'd the sound you're after 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desey Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 custom all the way - my powerfow system rocks lifetime warranty and made the way i wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinyflier Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Can only comment on my set-up. OEM exhaust was replaced with full Miltek but I found it absurdly quiet (seemed quieter than the OEM it had replaced). Then had BERKS HFCs fitted and it transformed the sound of the car. Some people have commented that HFS sound "raspy" but either my ears tune that sound frequency out or it just doesn't happen on mine. The combination of Miltek and Berks give a lovely burble at idle and a purposeful growl on full chat but still gives a very muted tone at cruising speed, no droning at all. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 I hadn't thought of a custom... Is it the same price range? I don't know about going catless as much as I'd love to, it's just a pain for me to have to put them back on for the MOT. I don't want a particularly loud obnoxious exhaust, but something with a nice burble at idle, but has a decent soundtrack when on full chat. Will have a look at powerflow for options. The question will then be, which HFCs will work best with powerflow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Sounds like you want something mild like an Invidia Gemini or Miltek then some HFCs. Problem with custom exhausts is resale value is pretty much zero, put an unbranded used custom exhaust on eBay and you will probably get £100 if your lucky, put a used branded one on here and you will sell in a flash for a good price. Drop me a pm if I can help 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 (edited) I hadn't thought of a custom... Is it the same price range? I don't know about going catless as much as I'd love to, it's just a pain for me to have to put them back on for the MOT. I don't want a particularly loud obnoxious exhaust, but something with a nice burble at idle, but has a decent soundtrack when on full chat. Will have a look at powerflow for options. The question will then be, which HFCs will work best with powerflow? 90% of the time you will just be paying for the brand, Polo shirt with Fred Perry logo on it will sell for £50 more than a plain Polo Shirt from Primark. Custom exhaust you can have made up to your exact needs. Sound, tail pipes etc. The other thing I like about custom is, it's built for YOUR car. So no adjusting or modding to get it fitted, no knocks or odd noises. With the MK4 golf, the Miltek system was a popular choice however it was prone to the odd knocking noise underneath the car. However that is probably not the case with the zed, but just an example to the benefits of a custom. Price, I paid I think £450-£600 for a full cat back system. And I think the Miltek for the golf was way over £800+. So that was the price range I previously had. My car is booked in to talk about an exhaust on Tuesday with Powerflow. I'll update with more info. Edited November 20, 2013 by grundy225 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not knocking custom exhausts by the way, and you are right it is similar to clothes, my analogy is that if you buy a custom exhaust for a Zed for £600 and say 12 months down the line you need to sell and you get £100 then its cost you £500. But let's say you buy a branded one at £850 and sell it at £650 12 months down the line then ownerships cost you half of the custom system. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy78 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not knocking custom exhausts by the way, and you are right it is similar to clothes, my analogy is that if you buy a custom exhaust for a Zed for £600 and say 12 months down the line you need to sell and you get £100 then its cost you £500. But let's say you buy a branded one at £850 and sell it at £650 12 months down the line then ownerships cost you half of the custom system. That's awesome man maths Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Ha ha, cheers Paddy. I've been here long enough to see the patterns, owners come and go and branded parts hold their value really well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not knocking custom exhausts by the way, and you are right it is similar to clothes, my analogy is that if you buy a custom exhaust for a Zed for £600 and say 12 months down the line you need to sell and you get £100 then its cost you £500. But let's say you buy a branded one at £850 and sell it at £650 12 months down the line then ownerships cost you half of the custom system. Aye don't get me wrong, you're very correct, think at the end of it all, just down to personal preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Just seen my man Maths Sell the branded one at £600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Interesting. Definitely stuff to mull over Christmas. Thanks chaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 I'm not knocking custom exhausts by the way, and you are right it is similar to clothes, my analogy is that if you buy a custom exhaust for a Zed for £600 and say 12 months down the line you need to sell and you get £100 then its cost you £500. But let's say you buy a branded one at £850 and sell it at £650 12 months down the line then ownerships cost you half of the custom system. ^^ Agree. When we're talking exhausts though it's also worth noting I think the R&D that major manufacturers have put into the systems. I'm not knocking custom exhaust's either as I used to have one on my old Civic Type R made by Longlife exhausts which was very good but, ...if I ever had taken the car on a dyno I'm sure I would have seen better results with some of the higher end exhaust systems and as Tarmac states the re-sale price (should I had chosen to sell it) would have been a lot higher. If you just want something that's going to make a nice sound you like wmr1980 then by all means go for a custom exhaust which may or may not see good gains but if you want an exhaust that is going to give you a good increase in bhp/torque figures then I'd look more at some of Tarmacs quality exhausts with dyno proven gains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted December 7, 2013 Author Share Posted December 7, 2013 Another question. What are the best test pipes (i.e. removing the cat). I reckon I'll go that route - there seems to be a lot of different types ranging in price by £80. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) I'd go for H-Dev silenced decats if I was going that route, it can be very loud with some decats. Just wish they fitted the HR. Edited December 10, 2013 by Jp606 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted December 10, 2013 Author Share Posted December 10, 2013 Thanks for the tip. I'll look into it. Yeah I don't want it to be obnoxiously loud - but at the same time if I'm going to upgrade exhaust, I might as well go full hog, no point in a cat as you get so much more without. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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