WhackyWill Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The next-generation Nissan GT-R will feature a hybrid powertrain, using electrification to boost performance and lower emissions according to engineering, sales and marketing boss Andy Palmer. “There is an inevitability about electrification of all cars in the future, and there is the very real prospect of enhancements coming from this and ending up on a sports car like the Nissan GT-R,†said Palmer. “The electric systems can fill in the gaps in the torque curve and offer genuine performance gains, as well as lowering emissions. It’s win-win, and I’d expect to see some form of hybridisation on the next generation of car.†The Nissan GT-R is currently powered by a twin-turbo 3.8-litre V6 that delivers 542bhp and 463lb ft of torque. It boasts a 0-60mph time of 2.9sec. This generation of GT-R was introduced in late 2007, suggesting it is due for replacement around 2015. Palmer also confirmed that the soon-to-be launched Nissan GT-R Nismo will follow the more mainstream car’s policy of undergoing annual model-year revisions. “We hope to offer improvements with each model year, enhancing things like the aerodynamic capabilities and engine each time,†he said. “The benchmark of that will be our ‘Ring time, and we expect to see it come down each year.†The Nissan GT-R Nismo’s laptime is expected to be revealed at the Tokyo motor show. Palmer confirmed that Nissan employed four test drivers to attack the lap, in order to ensure competition among them for the fastest time, but hinted that ex-F1 driver Sebastien Buemi had emerged fastest. “Sebastien is a sensational driver,†he said. “He was flat-out in places that other people brake in. His lack of experience at the ‘Ring didn't hold him back.†Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RafsZed Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I think I will start saving from now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraktion Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Damn! Good morning! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I hate hybrids Sad in a way that we are going to see a lot of the big capacity engines / cars die off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 will be interesting... the GTR is already a heavy beast due to among other things its 4wd (power transfer system). Replacing that with batteries should be about the same in weight terms - so if they can up the power by another 100-200bhp, that would make for a very interesting car!! The current engine still drives the rear wheels and the power is then shifted forward via a secondary driveshaft.... so a 700+bhp GTR from the factory R36 is due out in 2017-2018 I believe, so not too far off.... price will be the killer though. Unless they use the same pricing strategy as the R35, in which case, get in early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Imagine if they spent all that dev money on making the car lighter, rather than adding weight. A 1500kg , 550bhp GT-R would be far more interesting than a 2000kg, 700bhp one. Make it smaller and lighter please, stop chasing headline figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Imagine if they spent all that dev money on making the car lighter, rather than adding weight. A 1500kg , 550bhp GT-R would be far more interesting than a 2000kg, 700bhp one. Make it smaller and lighter please, stop chasing headline figures. I do agree.... but they are chasing the Porsche 918 heavier and faster. I really doubt the car will be 2 tonnes, I would hope that its about the same weight it currently is 1750kgs. Im still waiting for someone to do a proper job of stripping a GTR and making it lightweight. There is a lot of weight that could be stripped!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 This won't be a 918/P1/LF rival, they're extreme hypercars. This will be another shot across the bow of the 911 Turbo, as well as the new baby McLaren and oft-wished-for baby Ferrari. I guessed at 2000 kgs, but batteries are ridiculously heavy and that's roughly the weight of them in the aforementioned hypercars with roughly the same power output from their hybrid systems. Assuming the new GT-R will still have a big engine and 4WD, I can't see them removing 200kg of weight from elsewhere in the car to compensate. Mizuno-san has already said that he wanted the GT-R to be heavy as it settles down better on the road, so clearly he's happy with a bloater of a car and just chucking more power and technology at it. Whilst I'm glad that stuff like that exists, for me that's not the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 This won't be a 918/P1/LF rival, they're extreme hypercars. This will be another shot across the bow of the 911 Turbo, as well as the new baby McLaren and oft-wished-for baby Ferrari. I guessed at 2000 kgs, but batteries are ridiculously heavy and that's roughly the weight of them in the aforementioned hypercars with roughly the same power output from their hybrid systems. Assuming the new GT-R will still have a big engine and 4WD, I can't see them removing 200kg of weight from elsewhere in the car to compensate. Mizuno-san has already said that he wanted the GT-R to be heavy as it settles down better on the road, so clearly he's happy with a bloater of a car and just chucking more power and technology at it. Whilst I'm glad that stuff like that exists, for me that's not the way forward. Its a target, I doubt they will come closes to the 918... The Nismo GTR has been testing at the "ring" and I am going to guess that its a fair bit quicker than the current GTR.... so 7:05ish lap times. The 918 did 6:57, which is phenomenal!!! I dont doubt that a better GTR gearbox, 700+bhp (thats assuming they use the same engine 525bhp + batteries), better aero and the same weight will come very close to the 918. http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/news/videos/2014-nismo-gt-r-nurburgring-testing Yes, I agree that adding the batteries and all adds weight, but the GTR currently runs additional diffs, driveshafts, etc. This should offset the weight of the batteries. That was the ethos for the R35, however Mizuno-san has now retired and has been replaced (since midway through the 2014 model of the GTR) by the guy from Nismo, hence the Nismo GTR. His ethos is slightly different.... so expect big changes http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/nissan-gt-rs-new-chief-engineer-tackles-big-tasks-including-hybrid-model.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexdax Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 the Rs are all a reference, i´m guessing the new one will be the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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