K370Z2 Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 My wallet is being emptied every year by having to pay the Car Tax. Now the Zed a small car in size & small in weight compared to the majority of cars out there. Being mature in years i was always under the impression that we all paid car tax to enable our government to use that money to repair & make new roads. So how is it that the peashooter small engined cars pay less than i do to drive on the road. I already pay tax at the pump every time i fill up and presume that i am at the pump more than the smaller engined cars so why do i need to pay more in Road Tax as well? I do less than 5000 miles a year so i am certainly not using the roads as much as most people out there doing school runs everyday etc. Rant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 If it makes you feel better my supercharged 4.0 litre v8 is only £220 a year in road tax. Advantages of buying pre 2001. And secondly road tax no longer gets spent on the roads, and is now known as the road fund licence. Its nothing more than a luxuries tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 If it makes you feel better my supercharged 4.0 litre v8 is only £220 a year in road tax. Advantages of buying pre 2001. And secondly road tax no longer gets spent on the roads, and is now known as the road fund licence. Its nothing more than a luxuries tax. +1 But I do agree with your point. I do about 4k max a year which equals X amount of emissions, in the zed and pay near on £300 for the privilege. Whereas someone in a smaller engined car doing 3-4 times more mileage than I, which then emits more crap into the atmosphere, pays half of what I do. In my opinion, since the road fund licence is based on emissions, it should be scrapped and included in the price of fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 It's "vehicle excise duty" ved and goes into a big pot some of which may pay for road upkeep/NHS/ etc etc Size and weight of the car has nothing to do with it but the engine does..... This last point I have a real gripe with, make it payable at the pump and leave it be. In fact in effect we do that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K370Z2 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 Well we are already being hammered at the pump every time we fill up, I fill up and get 22mpg but only do max of 5k per year. Where as Mrs Miggins (made up name) fills up her Micra (eg purposes only) then hammers round and does double or treble the milage on our roads, whilst the Zed is heavier than the micra - the Zed ain't wearing out the road as much. Any was a rant for the fairness of mankind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry350z Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Try €1806 per year here in Ireland for a Z! If its not a eco friendly Leaf or hybrid then you pay the silly tax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Try €1806 per year here in Ireland for a Z! If its not a eco friendly Leaf or hybrid then you pay the silly tax What sort of tax would you pay for a run of the mill 1600? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 My wallet is being emptied every year by having to pay the Car Tax. Now the Zed a small car in size & small in weight compared to the majority of cars out there. Being mature in years i was always under the impression that we all paid car tax to enable our government to use that money to repair & make new roads. So how is it that the peashooter small engined cars pay less than i do to drive on the road. I already pay tax at the pump every time i fill up and presume that i am at the pump more than the smaller engined cars so why do i need to pay more in Road Tax as well? I do less than 5000 miles a year so i am certainly not using the roads as much as most people out there doing school runs everyday etc. Rant You have to pay alot cos its a ZED nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 29, 2013 Share Posted September 29, 2013 Very true dblock its a zed, enough said! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K370Z2 Posted September 29, 2013 Author Share Posted September 29, 2013 1806 Eu ros i retract my Rant who thinks of these prices. That is ridiculous, No wonder Ireland produces do many good TT racers - its probably the only way to afford to go fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 No road tax of any kind here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 The system needs a good proper overhall. It is currently not fit for purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 It's just a tax. They'll get it one way or they'll get it another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ^^ True dat, it's down to us as individuals to get around it if we can (legally). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny the mod Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 Im just off to the post office to pay my £490 for the following year.. im so happy that if the lady behind the counter comments on how much I have to pay for my road tax, im going to smash her in the face.... Wish me look. (Oh by the way, I may not be on the forum for some time, I think my local prison is in Liverpool. Visits would be most welcome). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted September 30, 2013 Share Posted September 30, 2013 ^^ True dat, it's down to us as individuals to get around it if we can (legally). Hence why I know only by pre 2001 or if I have too, up to march 2006. If I but post 2006 I'll look for cars that fall in the right bracket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry350z Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Try €1806 per year here in Ireland for a Z! If its not a eco friendly Leaf or hybrid then you pay the silly tax What sort of tax would you pay for a run of the mill 1600? It's €544 for a 1600 cc! We also have Vehicle Registration Tax so if i want to import a shiny secondhand Z from the UK i have to pay 33% tax and the revenue decide the final figure, on the day I import it!! If they spot you driving about in a UK reg car here and they know you are a resident they will impound it and if you don't pay the tax within 2 weeks the car gets crushed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barry350z Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 1806 Eu ros i retract my Rant who thinks of these prices. That is ridiculous, No wonder Ireland produces do many good TT racers - its probably the only way to afford to go fast. €88 quid for a bike up to 9999cc!! I used to be a biker for 6 years until i got mashed head on @ 70 mph by an 18 year old in a car who was driving for 3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 33%? I knew there was an import tax but I didn't realise it was this much! I sold my Ducati 749 to a guy in the south last year for £3200. He had to have it and paid a deposit without seeing it. I assumed it was massively cheap because of the exchange rate, but once he added on the other £1000 it wasn't cheap at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K370Z2 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Unlucky Barry350Z i got 30 years before i got wiped out by an old man in a rush for a game of golf At least i saved 3 years road tax on my Zed whilst i was in hospital recovering not funny really i had a fazer 1000 with loads of mods - £112 a year for fully comp insurance. I only used it 4 months of the year but like you i still paid more road tax than the pea shooter cars pay. I really have no objections to having to pay more at the pump cause my Zed gets less MPG but im driving on the same road eeeee i am off again .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K370Z2 Posted October 1, 2013 Author Share Posted October 1, 2013 Im just off to the post office to pay my £490 for the following year.. im so happy that if the lady behind the counter comments on how much I have to pay for my road tax, im going to smash her in the face.... Wish me look. (Oh by the way, I may not be on the forum for some time, I think my local prison is in Liverpool. Visits would be most welcome). Ha ha love it jonny the mod - ill visit ya or ill share a cell - No soap jokes required 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollowPoint Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Gets more ridiculous every month too. Thankfully, I only have the one car that is post 2001, the other 3 are pre-2001. The amount of tax we pay in this country in general is ridiculous. I drive 4 large engined petrol cars, I smoke, I drink, I have children (pay for school dinners for the young one and everything for the 18 year old layabout one) and I live in a big house to make sure I have enough room for the cars, kids and the dog. In other words, I pay more tax than most millionaires and I'm not one! Do I get ANYTHING back for it? Nope. Not even decent pot-hole-free roads to drive on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K370Z2 Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share Posted October 3, 2013 We all need to do a Jimmy Carr and spend some of your cash on a good accountant then pay only 1% income tax . Its lucky they don't have nice car tax ur you'll be hammered i've seen photos of your cars . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 Don't need to pay an accountant, you just need to be able to read tax law and understand it enough to work out where the loopholes are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wmr1980 Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 It's a little expensive (fortunately I'm a pre tax hike owner) but it's worth it for owning a Zed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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