maxi-glasgow Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I bought a set of GT4 alloys off Bennett a few years ago and they came with Avon's and Ive never looked back. Never had any experience of grip being lost and I really push it round the twisty country roads. I was getting the fronts for roughly £117 a corner so very good price as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If you're not going on track it doesn't honestly matter what tyre you have as long as they can handle the wet and they're in a set all round. I feel that chucking on MPSS (yes, they're an excellent tyre) might be overkill if its purely for going to and from work, going to see family and friends and maybe a short stint of twistys and the excess cost could be used on fuel or service. Just my 2p - I'm sure I'll be shouted down! Perhaps, but see this Sticky here for my opinions on the subject What I will say is that the only keeping you in contact with the road are four very small pieces of rubber. With that in mind, is that where you want to be saving money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilMH Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Notwithstanding the fact that I have Avons on now and Bridgestone 050As on the Rays when I use them, if I was starting again now I would have MPSS because they pretty much have everything going for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drginger Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 PS... I am only replacing the rears, fronts have plenty of tread. So will i still notice a massive difference over MPSS over 453's just for the 2 tyres??????????? Another spanner in the works there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jell36 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Don't use different rear tyres to the front, it throws the cars handling off significantly. For the MPSS, they are a great tyre but don't last long. I have done 7,000 miles on mine and need a new set of rears already. No track days, traction control always on, I was surprised how short lived they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drginger Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Well i have toyo proxes TR1 on the front which im definately not changing.. this is why i also had in mind the proxes T1 Sport as the TR1 are discontinued but people are saying steer clear so now im left feeling rather confused.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilMH Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ideally you don't want tyres with disparate grip levels or tread patterns between the back and front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drginger Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 I know its not ideal but the fronts and rears have been different for 2 years and the rears are super budget and rated awfully so Im thinking whatever I get will be an improvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeilMH Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I know its not ideal but the fronts and rears have been different for 2 years and the rears are super budget and rated awfully so Im thinking whatever I get will be an improvement It's your call. If you are on a tight budget and want to keep the fronts you may be better to get the Toyos as the nearest match. However, the tyres are just about the most important part of the car...so just drive to the conditions or tyres you have. For normal, sensible driving this should not be an issue at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Ok I don't know too much about tyres but you will know when there decent for YOU'RE driving. I drive mine hard from time to time and chuck it round corners and the FK453's I've got all round grip really well in the dry and the wet there good but ive not tempted fate by pushing them too far (nor would I any tyre in the wet lol). They are a decent price too. Seem to do better than the 452's I had on previously. High speed and braking not an issue either. Edited July 31, 2013 by AMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Just buy Michelin pilot super sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jp606 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I have the Toyo T1 Sports on all corners and find hem brilliant in the wet and dry, don't feel the need to upgrade to anything other at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarlsberg Posted August 7, 2013 Share Posted August 7, 2013 about to fit Michelin PilotSport 3s that I picked up- any views on these? (going from RE040s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Say the word Michelin about to fit Michelin PilotSport 3s that I picked up- any views on these? (going from RE040s) Excellent tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 they're okay. Better than most budget stuff, but the PS3 are lower down the quality range than the PS2 or the PSS, despite carrying a solid price tag. Better than RE040s though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarlsberg Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I wrongly assumed 3s were higher up range than 2s, and I'll be going from 050s. not to worry- worth trying out for the difference anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedunn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 VREDS!!!! a ken track dayer the vreds are IMO the ultimate in road tyres with good all round grip ... switched to them from the 452's (didnt like how they held) and from the re050's before that and the re040's before that! the vreds whilst been extremely grippy in the dry offer better wet grip than any competitor that ive had the pleasure of trying! the only other tyres id use are Federal RSR 595's (semi slicks) available for a competitive price and outmatched only by the Toyo proxxy 888's - though at £200+ each i think they are a none contender ... neither are any good in the wet ... at all! i take a set on a spare set of rims to the track incase it is dry otherwise the vreds stay on For the money the Vreds are unequalled IMO. I swear by them as do many of my customers! Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedunn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 It only takes one near miss to make you realise that spending a couple of hundred quid more on better tires could potentially save you thousands. ditto pads/discs etc. What's wrong with the RE050s btw? Seem fine to me... The RE050's have a relatively soft side wall, they are a good compromise between dry performance and wet performance. A very popular choice for people that dont have jap sports cars that came on RE040's and dont like the twitchyness of them in the wet. RE050's are more of a saloon car tyre - expected to be found on the likes of a 5 series BMW - a good compromise but not ideal ... and quite expensive too (sorry to barge in on the tyre thread guys ... im a true tyre geek haha) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarlsberg Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Pilotsport3 seem to do well: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2010-Auto-Express-Ultra-High-Performance-Tyre-Test.htm my RE050s are just worn -only reason for changing. I used to find RE040s a bit too jittery- traction kept cutting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The RE050's have a relatively soft side wall, they are a good compromise between dry performance and wet performance. A very popular choice for people that dont have jap sports cars that came on RE040's and dont like the twitchyness of them in the wet. RE050's are more of a saloon car tyre - expected to be found on the likes of a 5 series BMW - a good compromise but not ideal ... and quite expensive too (sorry to barge in on the tyre thread guys ... im a true tyre geek haha) Sorry, just going to have to jump in here. You say the 050As have a soft side wall: I hope you're not comparing that to the VUS? The VUS have a very soft sidewall, which is why they offer such outstanding feel at the expense of grip (wet and dry). 050A is an OEM tyre on bothe the HR 350Z, 370Z and 9x7 Porsches, hardly saloon car tyres As an all-round tyre, the 050A is much better than the VUS on everything other than feedback, but they're not exactly bad on that account. For the money, the VUS are very good and they're the only budget tyre that I actually recommend. If you can spend more though then the 050A are superior, although with the MPSS being the same price and a gigaton better makes that a bit redundant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The RE050's have a relatively soft side wall, they are a good compromise between dry performance and wet performance. A very popular choice for people that dont have jap sports cars that came on RE040's and dont like the twitchyness of them in the wet. RE050's are more of a saloon car tyre - expected to be found on the likes of a 5 series BMW - a good compromise but not ideal ... and quite expensive too (sorry to barge in on the tyre thread guys ... im a true tyre geek haha) Sorry, just going to have to jump in here. You say the 050As have a soft side wall: I hope you're not comparing that to the VUS? The VUS have a very soft sidewall, which is why they offer such outstanding feel at the expense of grip (wet and dry). 050A is an OEM tyre on bothe the HR 350Z, 370Z and 9x7 Porsches, hardly saloon car tyres As an all-round tyre, the 050A is much better than the VUS on everything other than feedback, but they're not exactly bad on that account. For the money, the VUS are very good and they're the only budget tyre that I actually recommend. If you can spend more though then the 050A are superior, although with the MPSS being the same price and a gigaton better makes that a bit redundant. I was going to say the same if a little less informed.... after having 2 sets of REO50As on a Zed they are very good tyres indeed, only criticisms after swapping to MPPS were that wet grip was not as good especially from cold, roadnoise noticably worse and feel/grip when pushing on noticeably not as good, but certainly a good tyre all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I've had Pilot Sports on other cars and compared to the Supers they suck. My Zed has RE040 before and compared to the Supers they also suck. I will be (you guessed it) replacing my Supersports with more when the time comes!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benedunn Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Sorry, just going to have to jump in here. You say the 050As have a soft side wall: I hope you're not comparing that to the VUS? The VUS have a very soft sidewall, which is why they offer such outstanding feel at the expense of grip (wet and dry). 050A is an OEM tyre on bothe the HR 350Z, 370Z and 9x7 Porsches, hardly saloon car tyres As an all-round tyre, the 050A is much better than the VUS on everything other than feedback, but they're not exactly bad on that account. For the money, the VUS are very good and they're the only budget tyre that I actually recommend. If you can spend more though then the 050A are superior, although with the MPSS being the same price and a gigaton better makes that a bit redundant. Sorry buddy, I meant a relatively soft sidewall compared to the RE040's As I say very a good compromise! As a road tyre they are brilliant, generally get good wear out of them too but when the going gets really tuff there are much better options. There expensive too :-/ You really do sacrifice a bit of dry grip for wet grip with them over the re040's ... Try it you'll see ;-) Still swear by the Vred's! Cheaper better dry performance than the 40's and wet performance than the 50's (Note that my experience is all in a car they weights 250kg less than the 350z but will put the tyres under a lot more strain in the corners so I guess I could be wrong or more right :-/ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yarlsberg Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 all very helpful thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted August 10, 2013 Share Posted August 10, 2013 (edited) Listen to whoever but RE050A's are faaaar better than Vredesteins IMO, more feedback, more wet and dry grip and more everything. And whoever said that running different tyres front and back will noticably affect handling doesnt understand the difference between handling and grip. Believe me, Ive been through a lot of sets of tyres over the last 10 years, I had 8 pairs on the back of the 350 in the first 13 months ....... the only thing I cant give any feedback on is longevity As Ekona says "saloon car tyres" arent generally OE fitted to Porsches, Aston DB9's, Ferrari F430 and Maserati GT's Edited August 10, 2013 by docwra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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