smudgedon Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Basically got a cold air feed setup on the way, and want to replace the filter on the end for something decent, ideally one that doesn't have to be re-oiled all the time What would people recommend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Apexi that is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Apexi fitment is perfect. I was shocked at how well it all went together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgedon Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apexi-Power-Intake-Nissan-350Z-2003-2009-/270935417758?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f1502639e ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apexi-Universal-Power-Intake-Replacement-Filter-OD-160mm-ID-85mm-/281048159117?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item416fc6938d why get a 350z one you only want the filter you can get adapters as well like this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Apexi-Universal-Power-Intake-Air-Filter-75mm-Dual-Funnel-Adapter-/130782385724?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e733cd63c i think i even have one knocking around somewhere in the garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgedon Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 (edited) Nice one Rich Thanks guys So how come the Apexi is considered to be the best? Edited March 22, 2013 by smudgedon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/ http://www.350z-uk.com/topic/33698-modifying-the-kn-typhoon-to-take-an-apexi-cone/page__hl__apexi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun1982 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If you want guaranteed cold air then try a BMC CDA. Had one on my FTO. Helped get me some gain with. My other mods too, and its carbon so looks cool too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave_the_Rave Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Cant understand people that spend loads of money on cone filters such as the Pop charger... Its a cone filter with abit of metal as a heat sheild and your paying around £120 for it? When as shown above you can get a decent filter for little money!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Too bad I just dropped a Pipercross filter in the stock system, going to have to try the Apexi cone air filter at some point. Only thing worrying me is the "fact" that people say you will decrease performance due to heat soak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 If you want guaranteed cold air then try a BMC CDA. Had one on my FTO. Helped get me some gain with. My other mods too, and its carbon so looks cool too i use a similiar system on the jag, love it, got it to give some kind of heat soak protection. but as smudge has a system and just wants the filter then i'd say apexi offer the best filter. its the same reason i used to sell the apexi panel filters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Too bad I just dropped a Pipercross filter in the stock system, going to have to try the Apexi cone air filter at some point. Only thing worrying me is the "fact" that people say you will decrease performance due to heat soak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD "Heat Soak" seems to be very much overrated on this forum. I've had 5 or 6 different air filter styles other than standard across my 3 years of Z ownership, everything from an uprated panel filter (K&N) to at least 4 different types of cone filter (Japspeed cone[for about 2 weeks, don't murder me! ], BMC CDA, HKS Mushroom filter and an Apexi Cone) have I noticed any difference in any of them other than noise? Not really. Has heat soak been a huge engine killing problem? Haven't had any issues, not even at track days on hot summer afternoons. Personally I'd rather have good filtering than .5 of a horsepower extra. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Too bad I just dropped a Pipercross filter in the stock system, going to have to try the Apexi cone air filter at some point. Only thing worrying me is the "fact" that people say you will decrease performance due to heat soak. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD "Heat Soak" seems to be very much overrated on this forum. I've had 5 or 6 different air filter styles other than standard across my 3 years of Z ownership, everything from an uprated panel filter (K&N) to at least 4 different types of cone filter (Japspeed cone[for about 2 weeks, don't murder me! ], BMC CDA, HKS Mushroom filter and an Apexi Cone) have I noticed any difference in any of them other than noise? Not really. Has heat soak been a huge engine killing problem? Haven't had any issues, not even at track days on hot summer afternoons. Personally I'd rather have good filtering than .5 of a horsepower extra. What about dyno tests that show stock air filter box yields more power than the short ram air intakes? I'm just curious, read a few threads about this on the yank forums. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wls350 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Just my experience on an HR. Took stock of and put short intake kit on and lost 15bhp on top end. Got uprev had it mapped and we could not get AFR right. Put stock system back and AFR was perfect? So there is a definite trade of. And back on dyno gained on top end. After uprev mapping car is hauling. My advise is drop in filters over stock. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 What about dyno tests that show stock air filter box yields more power than the short ram air intakes? I'm just curious, read a few threads about this on the yank forums. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD I've never had mine dyno'd to compare the results so I couldn't comment on it. Unfortunately, as much as I'd love it to change, I don't have a dyno in my behind Would be very helpful though! At the end of the day, dyno figures will tell the truth. I haven't felt a difference, but I could be wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I guess wls350's experience is consistent with what others have reported regarding short ram intakes. Ill stick with aftermarket drop-in filters in the stock box for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Interesting read: http://www.importtuner.com/tech/impp_1007_performance_air_intakes/viewall.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Interesting read: http://www.importtun...es/viewall.html Awesome find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgedon Posted March 22, 2013 Author Share Posted March 22, 2013 I've got the intake pipe to drop in behind the bumper, and have a heat shield to protect the filter as much as possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I may be wrong, but don't our resident tuners suggest that the stock box with a drop in shows more gains than both CAI or short ram? That would go against what that link is saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 I may be wrong, but don't our resident tuners suggest that the stock box with a drop in shows more gains than both CAI or short ram? That would go against what that link is saying. If you read the link carefully you would notice that they had a small disclaimer noting they did the dyno run for the CAI with front bumper off and fans blowing at the front of the vehicle. I would love to see some numbers with the bumper in place. Still, I believe the stock air box is the better of all 3 since CAI increases the intake piping, thus dropping the intake pressure. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 the difference between the 2 etc with uprev is so tiny you wouldn;t notice, its mostly about pub bragging rights and getting the highest number on a dyno sheet. 15bhp is like the difference between not eating for a couple of days and having a large roast dinner beofre going out in the car. yes you might sacrifice a little bhp for a cone filter if its in the engine bay, but once the car is moving there is more than enough air entering to keep it cool. I'd rather have a little noise and drama and sacrifice a couple of ponies, than rince everything out of the car just so i can say i have 302 bhp instead of 298. On the XKR i'm using a RAM air carbon box and filter. (still need to cut a hole into the wheel arch to get direct cold air feed.) i did it becuase it looks nicer in the engine bay than the old sun bleached box i had, its carbon, and it makes a bit more induction noise which is fun. i suppose the advantage is i have well over 400bhp so i'm not bothered about rinsing everything for pub top trumps, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir655 Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 To each his own Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 To each his own Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD very true; horse for courses and all that. If people want to go the panel route i'd reccomend fly boys velocity stack mod if you have a DE engine. complements the build well and helps maximise BHP gains on a dyno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davobravo Posted March 22, 2013 Share Posted March 22, 2013 Interesting read: http://www.importtun...es/viewall.html Awesome find. Just my experience on an HR. Took stock of and put short intake kit on and lost 15bhp on top end. Got uprev had it mapped and we could not get AFR right. Put stock system back and AFR was perfect? So there is a definite trade of. And back on dyno gained on top end. After uprev mapping car is hauling. My advise is drop in filters over stock. Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2 thats a relief, thought id have to spend hundreds on filters but as ive learned, i can still run on my k&n pannels and just get the lil beastie mapped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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