jkyb Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) I've been searching around for a definitive answer to this but all I've managed to get (amongst lettering laws) is "A number plate must be clearly displayed on the front/rear of the vehicle". Now, does this subtly define that it has to be displayed entirely centrally? Or could it be for example, towards the bottom of the front bumper as long as it's in the middle? Or attached to the grill (e.g like on a zed)? Would be nice if I could tie it to the grill once my body kit's fitted to the zed, that way I wouldn't have to worry about damaging the paint if/when I have to remove the plate. Cheers Edited March 15, 2013 by jkyb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I believe it has to be a certain height from the ground, and also a maximun height, check on the DVLA web site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I was once told by a police woman that I could stick it in the front window if I didn't want to fit it to the bumper. Just after I got pulled for not having a front plate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I can't find any regs about the position of the plate, there's plenty saying you must have a front & rear, specific colours, font size and style, flags etc... but it only says it must be displayed regarding position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 They certainly don't have to be central or every Alfa would be illegal . Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 They certainly don't have to be central or every Alfa would be illegal . Pete As would most Evos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/pdfs/uksi_20010561_en.pdf Page 6. So long as it's vertical and in plainly visible, you shouldn't have any issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhackyWill Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm sure theres a height requirement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm sure theres a height requirement... No, only a height of the letters. Clearly visable is all I can read up on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Certainly legal fixed to the grille on a Zed ... many have done it and none have been pulled AFAIK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 I'm sure theres a height requirement... Doesn't seem to be any regulations regarding height. Don't some vehicles like vans and trailers have them really high up at the back? Anyway, as long as they're visible to the numberplate recognition system that cameras use I guess you're O.K. Only thing I did pick up on was that number plates should be as vertical as possible. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkyb Posted March 15, 2013 Author Share Posted March 15, 2013 Seems like a go to me, will chance it and see how it goes. Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgedon Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) The law states that the front registration plate must be placed on the most front part of the vehicle - i.e. the front bumper I used to run a car without a front plate and only ever got pulled once Cops don't usually notice when on the move, but may notice it easier if you're parked up or something I always kept the plate in the boot just in case EDIT - there is nothing about height or placement, just that it must be on the further front point of the car Edited March 15, 2013 by smudgedon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vlad Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) When I had my celica I had it in bodyshop and one of the jobs was to smooth out holes in from bumper made by screws for number plate, and I had my number plate attached l(with suction cups) to the front left corner of windscreen(by tax disc) ones police were driving past as I was getting into my car in a public car park. They stopped for a chat and a quick check...asked about number plate if it was blocking my view-n it wasn't blocking it that much, then they got all their books and manuals out from the boot of their car-but after looking thru them for good 10minutes-they couldn't find anything that said it was illegal, wished me a good day and let me go! Also a friend of mine, about 2 years ago, asked VOSA bloke at one of cruises about having number plate in the window and he said as far as its displayed on the front of the car, it's fully visible and as vertical as possible (as possible...so I guess it don't have to be fully vertical) its fine! My other mate has American style tilted number plate bracket-he got told off n told to change it, as cameras wouldn't pick it up. So long story short - as far as its fully visible it will be fine Edited March 15, 2013 by Vlad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudgedon Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 When I had my celica I had it in bodyshop and one of the jobs was to smooth out holes in from bumper made by screws for number plate, and I had my number plate attached l(with suction cups) to the front left corner of windscreen(by tax disc) ones police were driving past as I was getting into my car in a public car park. They stopped for a chat and a quick check...asked about number plate if it was blocking my view-n it wasn't blocking it that much, then they got all their books and manuals out from the boot of their car-but after looking thru them for good 10minutes-they couldn't find anything that said it was illegal, wished me a good day and let me go! Also a friend of mine, about 2 years ago, asked VOSA bloke at one of cruises about having number plate in the window and he said as far as its displayed on the front of the car, it's fully visible and as vertical as possible (as possible...so I guess it don't have to be fully vertical) its fine! My other mate has American style tilted number plate bracket-he got told off n told to change it, as cameras wouldn't pick it up. So long story short - as far as its fully visible it will be fine Think you've been given some duff info there Vlad I've researched this numerous times and spoken to quite a few traffic cops over the years who all come back saying that it has to be on the most front part of the car Putting it in the window may be making it visible, but is illegal - I think the cops just give a bit of discretion when it comes to that from my experience though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun1982 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 My old zed had the plate tucked in the bottom passenger side of the mouth. Had no problems. Also my old fto had the plate stuck a good 7-8 inches back in the mouth of a veilside bumper again without problems. Going back a good 10-12 years my old corsa plate was on the very bottom of the main 'mouth' at about 80 degrees or so. Without problems lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) The law states that the front registration plate must be placed on the most front part of the vehicle - i.e. the front bumper I used to run a car without a front plate and only ever got pulled once Cops don't usually notice when on the move, but may notice it easier if you're parked up or something I always kept the plate in the boot just in case EDIT - there is nothing about height or placement, just that it must be on the further front point of the car How would that work on a combine harvester? They go on the road and they don't put there plate on the furthest front point of the vehicle!. Cops would get dizzy trying to look for it! Edited March 15, 2013 by 4RE Leather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) U.K E-Types never had a front number plate holder, they had to be stuck on the bonnet. U.S E-Types did have a number plate holder under the grille but the number plates used were different, a U.K number plate wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes under there. There may be other cars like this from that era. Pete Edited March 15, 2013 by JetSet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The law states that the front registration plate must be placed on the most front part of the vehicle - i.e. the front bumper I used to run a car without a front plate and only ever got pulled once Cops don't usually notice when on the move, but may notice it easier if you're parked up or something I always kept the plate in the boot just in case EDIT - there is nothing about height or placement, just that it must be on the further front point of the car How would that work on a combine harvester? They go on the road and they don't put there plate on the furthest front point of the vehicle!. Cops would get dizzy trying to look for it! See point 8 on page six of the link I posted. "Agricultural machines" (along with road rollers and work trucks) differ slightly to other vehicles - essentially so long as it's visible from the front and is as vertical as possible, it's fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 The law states that the front registration plate must be placed on the most front part of the vehicle - i.e. the front bumper I used to run a car without a front plate and only ever got pulled once Cops don't usually notice when on the move, but may notice it easier if you're parked up or something I always kept the plate in the boot just in case EDIT - there is nothing about height or placement, just that it must be on the further front point of the car How would that work on a combine harvester? They go on the road and they don't put there plate on the furthest front point of the vehicle!. Cops would get dizzy trying to look for it! See point 8 on page six of the link I posted. "Agricultural machines" (along with road rollers and work trucks) differ slightly to other vehicles - essentially so long as it's visible from the front and is as vertical as possible, it's fine. I was trying to put some fun into this!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 U.K E-Types never had a front number plate holder, they had to be stuck on the bonnet. U.S E-Types did have a number plate holder under the grille but the number plates used were different, a U.K number plate wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes under there. There may be other cars like this from that era. Pete Needs spacers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Putting a plate in the grill will negatively affect airflow to the rad. Just a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun1982 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Agreed Ekona but never noticed any temp rise in either car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Agreed Ekona but never noticed any temp rise in either car +1 ... no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 U.K E-Types never had a front number plate holder, they had to be stuck on the bonnet. U.S E-Types did have a number plate holder under the grille but the number plates used were different, a U.K number plate wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes under there. There may be other cars like this from that era. Pete Needs spacers I don't think they make spacers big enough to fill that gap . Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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