AMT Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Do I have to take a picture of this road?... lol Trust me residents there can only park on that hill, thats where their cars go, theres no where else. They park half on kerb half off to be curtious, when people park on the road, it generally makes it difficult to pass and annoying to all lol (it may be in the code but its not always 'common sense' proof lol) And its not a busy road, its a cut away bit for a set of houses and no one generally goes about hitting the cars...as thats where they always have parked. I can understand a busy main road with busy pavement, you wouldn't do it (well i say that, depends on the area. If you've left plenty of room for people to walk and your car gets hit then thats the people in the area thats the issue) Edited January 25, 2013 by AMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 We get what you mean, but just because everyone does it doesn't make it right. If there is not enough space to park on the road without blocking traffic, then there is not enough room to park. People should've thought about that before buying a house down there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 Unless of course the pavement looks something like this shot outside the front of my house right now... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) If there is not enough space to park on the road without blocking traffic, then there is not enough room to park. People should've thought about that before buying a house down there. So everyone on his street should just... move out? I think the point I'm making is ...circumstances is key... its wrong at times, but sometimes its ok, it doesn't cause any problems. Surroundings, people, how busy it is, how much kerb your actually sitting on. Common sense for each individual applies when parking lets put it that way? For my friends houses, its more common sense for a bit of the kerb, otherwise thats the councils issue for not making enough parking or road width..etc etc. Edited January 25, 2013 by AMT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Parking is such a bug bear I will be moving ASAP... driveway is a must. The Egg'ing and the Snow **** being good reasons why, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 people stick hamsters up their ar$e but that doesn't make it right. we've all done it at some point. I can confirm Iv never done this at any point Another point no1s mentioned is driving onto and off a kerb repeatedly will damage tyres if theres a sharp edge 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who buy houses but don't seem to take the parking restrictions into account and find they are competing with many others who have done the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 (edited) Local councils have the freedom from Parliament to to inforce and make there own rules for non criminal cases. This is called "The Law of Tort" For the purpose of debait Hounslow Council have made it a "Law of Tort" that cars will park in Islay Gardens TW4 5DR with 2 wheels on the kerb and 2 wheels off within the dotted lines:) If there is no signs on the lamp posts and no dotted lineson/off the pavement, then in all probability Statute law - act of Parliament will come into force and you are not allowed to park in this way! Edited January 25, 2013 by 4RE Leather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 I wish London parking was as easy as non london parking, seriously, it is something you cannot take as granted unless you are looking at six figures. It really is a different world to a lot of the rest of the country. I want to live in Richmond, but to get a driveway in my budget it means living 20 miles west of here, not living in a different street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 thats the councils issue for not making enough parking or road width..etc etc. So the council/property developers should find out the name of every person who is ever going to live down the street, and ask them if they ever intend on owning X amount of cars and where they intend to park them?! Get real. It's people being short-sighted and selfish and expecting that because they live there, they can do whatever they want. Newsflash: No, you can't. You have to have some common sense like the rest of us, and if there's no room to park then go park somewhere else. The kerb/path is for people, not for vehicles. It's also not for cyclists either, but that's a whole different rant... Colin has said it perfectly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted January 25, 2013 Share Posted January 25, 2013 It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who buy houses but don't seem to take the parking restrictions into account and find they are competing with many others who have done the same. Yep exactly what is happening here, up to about 2 months ago the houses/flats opposite were still being built and we received a notice that parking restrictions were coming into force and parking only allowed in allocated bays and visitors areas were for visitors only. Luckily we rent a double garage so have room for 3 cars but all the other flats where people have 2 cars are up in arms saying they will refuse to pay for extra spaces WTF.... They KNEW this when they moved here, now there are signs up and cars are being ticketed, people are now saying they won't pay them so I don't know what will happen probably get messy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted January 25, 2013 Author Share Posted January 25, 2013 Our whole village needs to be condemned then . Some people living in two bed flats with one parking space have a van and three cars. Multiply this situation by thousands and you get the picture. New property developers idea of parking requirements are a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4RE Leather Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 I think basically you hit the nail on the head. To many cars per house hold and and when the vast majority of houses were built post war only a handful of people could afford a car. Its something that is never going to go away and will only get worse! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I bought mine with one space and a garage, but I paid for it as I new I could convert the garden into a parking space. Thing is I'm getting frustrated with everyone else crap parking, but I feel if I complain I become the w@nker, its not my fault they own more cars than they can park. I planned a head, but if I get the police involved I become the villain. Problem is many have a parking space, but can't be bothered to park round the back or use other side streets. Edited January 26, 2013 by rtbiscuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeast35 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 We get what you mean, but just because everyone does it doesn't make it right. If there is not enough space to park on the road without blocking traffic, then there is not enough room to park. People should've thought about that before buying a house down there. all of the abve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbeast35 Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who buy houses but don't seem to take the parking restrictions into account and find they are competing with many others who have done the same. We get what you mean, but just because everyone does it doesn't make it right. If there is not enough space to park on the road without blocking traffic, then there is not enough room to park. People should've thought about that before buying a house down there. thats the councils issue for not making enough parking or road width..etc etc. So the council/property developers should find out the name of every person who is ever going to live down the street, and ask them if they ever intend on owning X amount of cars and where they intend to park them?! Get real. It's people being short-sighted and selfish and expecting that because they live there, they can do whatever they want. Newsflash: No, you can't. You have to have some common sense like the rest of us, and if there's no room to park then go park somewhere else. The kerb/path is for people, not for vehicles. It's also not for cyclists either, but that's a whole different rant... Colin has said it perfectly. It never ceases to amaze me the number of people who buy houses but don't seem to take the parking restrictions into account and find they are competing with many others who have done the same. Yep exactly what is happening here, up to about 2 months ago the houses/flats opposite were still being built and we received a notice that parking restrictions were coming into force and parking only allowed in allocated bays and visitors areas were for visitors only. Luckily we rent a double garage so have room for 3 cars but all the other flats where people have 2 cars are up in arms saying they will refuse to pay for extra spaces WTF.... They KNEW this when they moved here, now there are signs up and cars are being ticketed, people are now saying they won't pay them so I don't know what will happen probably get messy I bought mine with one space and a garage, but I paid for it as I new I could convert the garden into a parking space. Thing is I'm getting frustrated with everyone else crap parking, but I feel if I complain I become the w@nker, its not my fault they own more cars than they can park. I planned a head, but if I get the police involved I become the villain. Problem is many have a parking space, but can't be bothered to park round the back or use other side streets. + all of the above Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 We seem to keep referring to people that move to places that do not have parking, what about people that have lived there all their lives? I know a woman on our road who is in her sixties and has lived in the same house since she was twelve, is it now her fault for living there that she can't get parked? Car ownership was rarer when her parents bought the place, what does she do? I have to say our road is a nightmare, you have to park on the kerb and its marked out that way, but its a lovely place to live, very convenient, very safe, loads of great facilities, easy to get to work, all my friends live around here etc so of course I want to live here I am not going to live somewhere else because of the parking. I still though think I am entitled like the poster said to argue when parking restrictions are clearly nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 (edited) I think parking is a massively contentious issue and it depends where you live and what you have as to your opinion. I know, for example, that everyone in the village parks on the pavements (and everywhere else) therefore it is acceptable to most. But people breaking social convention incur some serious wrath - e.g. if people park in someone else's allocated parking = noted cars, shouting ranting and raving - once someone keyed someone else's car TBH my post was really supposed to be from a mechanical perspective, not from a social perspective or legal perspective. Amusing debate though Edited January 26, 2013 by downhuman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted January 26, 2013 Share Posted January 26, 2013 Our whole village needs to be condemned then . Some people living in two bed flats with one parking space have a van and three cars. Multiply this situation by thousands and you get the picture. New property developers idea of parking requirements are a joke. I'm afraid that perception is quite wrong, Councils dictate the parking levels. Government has forced Council's to take measures to discourage private car ownership - particularly where new development will be in areas where there are good or reasonable public transport. Developers would far prefer to provide good parking because they know that in the main Joe Public will want it and that will help to sell houses/flats. We can all see new housing where there clearly is not sufficient parking, as simply put Joe Public do not want to give up on their cars. As a petrolhead, I have every sympathy with that starting point. All the parking restrctions are doing is fueling the prices of houses that do have off-street parking. (And helping to lead to th demise of the High Streets, but that is a seperate, albeit related issue.) In London some house owners are now renting out their surplus garages/parking spaces for mega money, not just to commuters but those neighbours nearby who are desperate. Situation is not helped in older established areas where housing was built before car ownership became the norm and no or little off-street parking was provided but yet it still attracts 2,3 or more cars per household. That is what led to my comment above ^^^^ that affects me and is widespread in most urban/suburban situations It bemuses me as a planner, all the emphasis on 'green' cars - yet they still have four wheels and a shell that needs space to park. My next mode of transport, as I'm buggered if I am risking life and limb on a 'bike' of any kind from too many tunnel vision drivers out there, is likely to be found here: http://www.segway.com/ Now what FI models do they have Not quite in need of a mobility scooter just yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downhuman Posted January 26, 2013 Author Share Posted January 26, 2013 Segways ae awesome, done several rides on them, including the offroad ones in the Bahamas. Great fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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