Ekona Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Me. The PS4 looks interesting, but unless the pads feel significantly better or MS screw the new Xbox pads up, I'm firmly in the Xbox camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 12 months? Release is this holiday season, although Europe hasn't been confirmed yet. I'd expect a mid-Nov Jap launch, followed by an early Dec US launch. Possibly EU at the same time, but it'd be a tough ask. I'm saying 12 months till UK launch. Will be interesting to see if they avoid the insane launch pricing of the PS3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Me. The PS4 looks interesting, but unless the pads feel significantly better or MS screw the new Xbox pads up, I'm firmly in the Xbox camp. Agreed, I think the better titles are on Xbox, also PS3 was said to be the 'better' console upon launch, however the 360 and PS3 have to this day very similar sales figures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Me. The PS4 looks interesting, but unless the pads feel significantly better or MS screw the new Xbox pads up, I'm firmly in the Xbox camp. Agreed, I think the better titles are on Xbox, also PS3 was said to be the 'better' console upon launch, however the 360 and PS3 have to this day very similar sales figures. I thought the PS3 failed miserably, as i know probably 10 people with XBOX's and only 1 person with a PS3! However just looked up the figures on Wikipedia and the PS3 has sold 77m units compared to the 360's 75m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kris Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) Me. The PS4 looks interesting, but unless the pads feel significantly better or MS screw the new Xbox pads up, I'm firmly in the Xbox camp. Agreed, I think the better titles are on Xbox, also PS3 was said to be the 'better' console upon launch, however the 360 and PS3 have to this day very similar sales figures. I thought the PS3 failed miserably, as i know probably 10 people with XBOX's and only 1 person with a PS3! However just looked up the figures on Wikipedia and the PS3 has sold 77m units compared to the 360's 75m! I don't know about the launch figures but yep the sales to date are very similar! I seem to know more people with an Xbox but maybe that's because the Xbox is more of a 'gamers' console than the PS3, due to the alot of folk buying the PS3 for the blu ray capability alone? Edited February 21, 2013 by kris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sony are huge in Japan, but that's it. The games section is losing millions, they need this to be a massive success worldwide. MS are the opposite, they're nothing in Japan but dominant elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flex Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I'm on Sony's side. Brand loyalty or blind loyalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlp Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Sony are huge in Japan, but that's it. The games section is losing millions, they need this to be a massive success worldwide. MS are the opposite, they're nothing in Japan but dominant elsewhere. Sony Entertainment is actually the only side to Sony that's making a profit even though the console/game side of it accounts for only 11% for the whole of Sony. Anyway just bought a Sega Game Gear from Ebay!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Now the next generation is on the way, its probably time for me to get a 360! Are they £100 yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlp Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Now the next generation is on the way, its probably time for me to get a 360! Are they £100 yet? Check AVForums.co.uk classifieds section on the games consoles lots sold on there cheap and better quality than fleabay also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 imho the new consoles are about as good (graphically) circa 2009 so not exactly next gen (if the net rumours are true about the gfx chip that is, they got the ps4 pad bang on so may be true) and also why are the new cpu's in both new consoles 8 cores but only running at 1.6ghz per core, less heat yes but even superior pc games don't take FULL advantage of 4 cores let alone 8. guess the console to pc ports might be a little bit better when the so called "nextgen" consoles arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 what's the estimate for new xbox launch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 what's the estimate for new xbox launch Expect an announcement at E3 in june. imho the new consoles are about as good (graphically) circa 2009 so not exactly next gen (if the net rumours are true about the gfx chip that is, they got the ps4 pad bang on so may be true) and also why are the new cpu's in both new consoles 8 cores but only running at 1.6ghz per core, less heat yes but even superior pc games don't take FULL advantage of 4 cores let alone 8. guess the console to pc ports might be a little bit better when the so called "nextgen" consoles arrive It's all about the future proofing innit? Clock speed is less important these days than shifting huge textures about. You only have to look at PC specs for games to see CPU use has basically plateaued as more and more gets performed by the GFX card. They are monster specialist PC units themselves these days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoged Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Atari STFM / psp /ps3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 what's the estimate for new xbox launch Expect an announcement at E3 in june. imho the new consoles are about as good (graphically) circa 2009 so not exactly next gen (if the net rumours are true about the gfx chip that is, they got the ps4 pad bang on so may be true) and also why are the new cpu's in both new consoles 8 cores but only running at 1.6ghz per core, less heat yes but even superior pc games don't take FULL advantage of 4 cores let alone 8. guess the console to pc ports might be a little bit better when the so called "nextgen" consoles arrive It's all about the future proofing innit? Clock speed is less important these days than shifting huge textures about. You only have to look at PC specs for games to see CPU use has basically plateaued as more and more gets performed by the GFX card. They are monster specialist PC units themselves these days! thats what i mean i had a ati 5850 back in 2009 and if the nextgen consoles have a amd(ati) 7750 or similar then the 4 year old card is still more powerful, yes of course consoles are a closed architecture and they will get great performance out of the gfx given time but by that time the pc gfx cards will be serveral steps ahead again, agreed the new consoles will be a large step forward but then again the current consoles are getting on for 7-8 years old and boy they sure do show their age (sorry if the above is a ramble i have man flu ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 At the end of the day until graphics cards come down in price then consoles will always be behind the times, graphics cards have always been overpriced, yes there is R&D to pay for but the depreciation is worse than any car in % times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 23, 2013 Share Posted February 23, 2013 Gfx card comparisons are irrelevant now, I think. The huge leaps between card revisions we used to get years ago (5800 Ultra Hoover, anyone?) just aren't there anymore, and even cards costing £150 can run Crysis et al at fantastic settings at 1080p. Perhaps this is because of the shift towards developers programming for consoles and then PC ports just getting a few extra whizzy settings that in practice do nothing other than give e-peen boasting prowess of 60fps @max settings, I don't know, but certainly paying £1000 for a dual SLI setup doesn't give the gains of previous years. I left PC gaming years ago because the more rounded experiences were to be found on the consoles for the games I enjoy, and there's nothing there now or in the future that could tempt me back. What we need from the next gen consoles isn't super whizzy graphics, although that's always nice, it's different experiences. I doubt we'll get it for the first couple of years, but make no mistake this is a critical time for gaming and the manufacturer that leads the march towards 5-min social or cloud-based experiences will be very successful. Which is a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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