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umm they are pretty identical in manufacturing year to the zed, they were 99 to 2008; zed was 2003 to 2009

 

and have you seen the price of them, they go for the same cash as the zed , and some of the 99's go for under under 5k if not less. they are cheap as chips now.

 

Good point! Hadn't really realised - maybe they just feel older to me. Having had an escort cab as a second car a while ago the soft top ruins it for me as well. The roof spends most of the time up for me! Lol

 

 

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Playing devils advocate, for Wizard, the devil in this case. The Evo's do have lag the higher up the power spec range of cars you go. You have to make sure its dropped into lower gears to shift the bugger along, hence the gear shifting comments. The chef in the pub next door (White Horse, Wasso, you know, the place with cheap beer ;) ) had an older Evo which was tuned up a fair bit and he hated it, took me for a spin in it and it seemed a bloody faff to drive. With a Zed you do get all that great lazy power.

 

The Zed I found was disappointing when I first got it, but with the berks, exhaust etc and up rev became a whole different beast that felt very quick.

 

Once the current crisis is sorted at the coldel household I plan on getting another toy. Would I get a four seater hatch, even though the Focus ST or Evo for instance is loads of fun and powerful? Not in a million years. I got a Focus, and its for ferrying the family around in. Two seats and a sports car look all the way for me :)

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Funny thread this one! :lol:

 

At the end of the day its all about personal preference isnt it. Ive had turbo nutter boost cars in the past and sure enough, when you floor them you get a massive surge of power which makes them feel quick. I love em!

 

The zed on the other hand, or at least my 313 did, has a much more smoother power delivery. If I floored it in 2nd for example, the powers there, you are thrown back in your seat and the power keeps on coming to the 7500rpm. It was surprisingly responsive. And on the road, very often I was surprised at just how quick it was compared to other much more expensive cars which had more power.

 

Im not sure why anyone is comparing an Evo to a Zed. The Zed is in the same category as a boxster (zed is quicker than a boxster on paper unless its the 3.2), the z4 or even the z4m. When I first got my zed I remember having loads of fun against a guy in his z4m and being very satisfied that my zed had the same performance on the road and yet probably cost a lot less than his car.

 

Im also amazed that anyone would actually go out, buy a car without first finding out some facts on it. Such as the performance, the fuel economy, how much it is to insure & tax. Do people really rush out, buy a car then go "ooh, its slower than i thought?!!!"

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Dude, you have taken everything out of context. I was referring to my zed, not a stock one.

Evo is just not for me.... I've driven loads and they just don't do it for me. Was really close to buying a 6 many years ago.

 

Build quality on a supra and skyline is the same as an Evo? - LOL ok buddy.

 

Reading it back, was a little harsh. Horses for courses I guess.

 

WOW, i shouldn;t but i will, heres me biting

 

Evo's are cheap, have you seen the price of zeds? its not like they are bank breakers

 

crappy cars with little engines and lots of lag. seem to be able to tune the crap out of them for not alot of cash

 

I don't like the way they sound either. stock zed exhaust is pretty non plus

 

Plus most owners I have met are boy racers. have you seen some of the owners on here?

 

zed sounds like an exotic (better then 99% of cars on the road), really?

 

it goes like the clappers really? performance is on par with most hot hatches these days unless your boosted of course

 

is great for long distances as well as track work. yes great GT car, but for track work it actually needs a bit of work to sort its weight problem out.

 

Evo's just doesn't compete as a GT car. thats becuase they aren;t a GT car

 

Skylines and Supra's are much better built cars compared to Evo's and Scoobs, build quality is about on par as is the quality of plastics

 

The zed is an amazing car for the money and with forced induction can be even better!! - I would even say is a 911 competitor!! subjective

 

An Evo will always just be a compromised piece of turd for wannabe rally drivers. the zeds just a compromised piece of turd for wannabe porsche/ferrari/lambo etc etc drivers thats one hell of a sweeping statement and carries about as much weight as what i just said in reply. i'd say on track a scooby or evo is a far more competant drive.

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I'm going to back track a little here... Forgive my post yesterday, it's the combination of me being ill and the utter tw@ts I know that drive Evo's.

 

They are actually very capable cars. Comparing them to zeds to Evo's is pretty chalk and cheese.

 

Personally if I were in the market for a 4 door saloon, I'd probably opt for something german; an M5 or C63 AMG spring to mind as a performance saloon. If I found myself on some gravel, it would ofcourse have to be an Evo or a Scoob...

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its alright wizard, but it wasn;t very clear that yours is boosted; I know it is as i've seen your threads on the forum, but it did come across as a bit of a sweeping statement.

 

I like the Evo's but i'm not sure i'd own one, i hate the interior of them, even the new ones are very plastic. the skyline and supra do use better quality materials than the evo, but it doens't help that they are starting to look very date dinside the cockpit.

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its alright wizard, but it wasn;t very clear that yours is boosted; I know it is as i've seen your threads on the forum, but it did come across as a bit of a sweeping statement.

 

I like the Evo's but i'm not sure i'd own one, i hate the interior of them, even the new ones are very plastic. the skyline and supra do use better quality materials than the evo, but it doens't help that they are starting to look very date dinside the cockpit.

 

100% agree!! :)

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Japanese interiors are still about 2 generations behind the Germans lol. Interiors that are abit rubbish in Japanese cars are quite good in away. Makes the car cheaper, the interiors are very driver focused and they are hard wearing. TBH maybe as I've grown up with Japanese cars but the interiors never bother me too much.

 

Also supra and skylines are more in the GT catogory plus they are more expensive. Scoobys and evos are cheap cars with loads of power per £ not mentioning tuning potential. The other thing that makes them popular is a highly/moderately tuned one is probably faster than 90% of cars of the road. Also they see grippy and can flatter a driver. As a point to point machine they are very fast.

 

Also 2.5 boxsters are pap. Some of them have the old steering wheels and they are slower than my 172. Speed doesn't really matter but when the chassis is that good and can handle the 3.2 no problem the 2.5 is useless.

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in my opinion... any 4 door evo model or subaru model, looks like a family car. its not all about the speed. with all the speed cameras and unmarked police cars today, speed goes out the window . my z for looks anyday. :lol:

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I love my Zed, It may not be the fastest car on the planet but by god it certainly has the looks. I've never seen a car look so hot straight out of the crate except perhaps for the first Audi TT and we all know what a sack of @*!# that was with its twitchy back end. THe Zed has got the sexiest curves of any coupe on the road and although stock it may not be that quick but as time goes on and the tuners get their @*!# together you have a choice of superchargers and twin turbo's, you can't go wrong. i quite simply get more enjoyment out of driving my ZED that any other car i've owned in thirty years of driving. I just love the fact that its a two seater as well.

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EVOs and STIs are just a different category, fact. Put a T on a small displacement engine and the reliability goes out the window in exchage for massive power, fact also. Suitable for rally and competition if you tune them and have the cash for keep servicing after every run. You just can't have them all, it's compromising something to gain other things. S2000? That we can compare with the Z. Had one, great machine, but a pain in the ass if you want to drive it arround town on a daily basis and feel comfortable. Useless to tune, it's already maxed out, only if you want to spend a great deal of money just for "cosmetics" and sound. And aslo a fact is that the Z winns on track against the S2000. Yes, the S2000 corners better, it's fun to hear the F20 screaming at 9000 RPM, it's more like a "built for preformance" car but it's not enough to win the race. The Z is far form being perfect but gives enough reward to someone who wants to enjoy driving it every day and also have the fun factor at hand without being a millionaire. The debate here is just because people expected a racing machine without being ready to accept the compromises of that package. A race car is just not fitted for a comfortable everyday cruise. Here the Z is a wonderfull compromise in my opinion for those who want a spirited drive but not just a weekend track toy. You want a V6 NA Z, behaving like an 4WD saloon EVO with turbo, handling the corners like a spartan S2000 built especially for that and comfortable to drive every day, all at 10K price. Well, this is not possible. One just have to wisely ponder waht he wants, there are options out there for every one of us. It is not about which one is better than the other, but what suits better to each.

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i'd still pick the S2000 over the zed for a track day, for round town and everything else. its a very useable car. but i like convertibles, as you say its horses for courses.

Why did you change the S2000 with a Z then? Or was it the other way arround?

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Was the other way round, went zed to s2000; was the best move I ever made, zed was the most disappointing car (to me) I've owned. I felt in the zed you really had to push it to have fun, but in the s2k the same level of driver enjoyment could be achieved without breaking the law. I found the zed left me feeling cold. When I traded it in I didn't look back once. All my other cars felt sad when I sold them, would quiet happily have let it burn on the forecourt, I seriously fell out of love with the car itself. But fell in love with the people on the forum. Hence why I'm still here,

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Aaa, OK, I understand. You had other expectations and just wanted the thrilling fun factor. The Z too domestic for you in this case and driving it makes you feel farther from the road than in the S2000. The S2000 is more of an untamed creature. Then I hope the S2000 is the facelift edition but with cable throttle and no VSA. :)) That's the one I had.

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Oh, VXT means VX Turbo, as shorthand, not VXR, what I had typed was correct. As there is also the VX NA version, which has a lot less performance, VXT tends to make it easier to reference.

Sorry mate the vx220 is a 2.2 na. The vx220 turbo is obviously a 2.0 turbo but the vxr 220 turbo is a very, very limited edition that i was once the proud owner of!

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Oooof! When did this thread come back :lol: Had a peak through since the last time I posted in it only thing I want to comment on is the 'exotic' noise of the Zed.... YES! It does sound good, much better than most, lovely howl to it even when just traveling slowly up through 2nd etc. It sounds monumentally better than most aftermarket stuff as their too loud (whether it be foot down or all the time), sounds rattly and bangy (yes ive made that word up..)...

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