ScottyZ Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Uprev results courtesy of Abbey Motorsport. Mods (as listed in signiture) have been on for a while so the results are purely the gain from the remap. Fuel is Shell V-power. Power(bhp at Hubs): 290.8 to 306.5 gain= 15.7bhp. Torque(lbft) : 252.3 to 262.9 gain= 10.6lbft. 5 Maps installed and controlled via cruise control button. Each map varies the throttle response with map One being the tamest and map Five being the fiercest. In reality there's not a great deal of difference between them. First impressions - This car is bloody quick! An impressive difference between before and after the Uprev although the traction control kicks in considerably more (a suspension mod might be required to reduce that). Well worth the money. Cheers, Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 All sounds good. You will have had some gain over stock (IIRC stock is about 280HP@hub), so gained about 25WHP from stock which is good and inline with what others have seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Interesting figures On mine with the Stillen exhaust fitted it was 297.6 and with the uprev 310.3 - gain of 12.7whp The torque was 250.1 and with the uprev 259.3 - gain of 9.2lbft So it seems the Stillen gives a bit more power without the uprev, but the Ackro+ has given a bit more torque. But as you say, you really notice the difference on the road. Is yours manual BTW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyZ Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 Interesting figures On mine with the Stillen exhaust fitted it was 297.6 and with the uprev 310.3 - gain of 12.7whp The torque was 250.1 and with the uprev 259.3 - gain of 9.2lbft So it seems the Stillen gives a bit more power without the uprev, but the Ackro+ has given a bit more torque. But as you say, you really notice the difference on the road. Is yours manual BTW? Yep, it's a manual. Just informed Admiral insurance and only £27.99 extra with the remap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 Subject to Mark confirming the exact time, I should be taking mine to Abbey for the Uprev at the end of this month..... I gave some serious thought to the HFCs too but I'm just not sure enough to take the plunge. Car sounds great as it is so I think I'll pass for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suits Posted May 28, 2012 Share Posted May 28, 2012 Pretty tame peak power increase figures, but that's to be expected, I'm sure they would be more if there were HFC's installed or even taken out. Tuning NA is an expensive business. However, we all know, peak power increases only tell the end of the story. What's the mid range gains like ?? I would asume more usable torque ?? Why have the 5 maps ?? Is there a reason, or is it just because it/you can ?? Seems a bit pointless, if you didn'ty lable the maps and I switched to random one, could you tell ?? I'd not even have two maps if truth be told, the increases I'd expect from this stage of tuning would be enough to alter the performance that significantly surely ?? Again, I don't know, I'm just researching these cars at the moment and am interested in what's working for people and what's not . Finally, what sort of cost's are we looking at here for a re-flash from Abbey Motorsport Cheers . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyZ Posted May 29, 2012 Author Share Posted May 29, 2012 Pretty tame peak power increase figures, but that's to be expected, I'm sure they would be more if there were HFC's installed or even taken out. Tuning NA is an expensive business. However, we all know, peak power increases only tell the end of the story. What's the mid range gains like ?? I would asume more usable torque ?? Why have the 5 maps ?? Is there a reason, or is it just because it/you can ?? Seems a bit pointless, if you didn'ty lable the maps and I switched to random one, could you tell ?? I'd not even have two maps if truth be told, the increases I'd expect from this stage of tuning would be enough to alter the performance that significantly surely ?? Again, I don't know, I'm just researching these cars at the moment and am interested in what's working for people and what's not . Finally, what sort of cost's are we looking at here for a re-flash from Abbey Motorsport Cheers . 1. HFC's were already installed. 2. Performance has noticeably improved throughout. 3. 5 maps for varying the aggresiveness of the throttle response, not power output. 4. Maps are swithched via the cruise control set and cancel buttons. The cruise control light flashes 1 to 5 times depending what map your in. 5. Uprev remap is around £400. I've spent around £3000 on my mods including fitting costs. The mods have transformed the car in terms of performance and sound. You could spend around £800-£1000 less on an exhaust but the Akrapovic is a real quality piece of kit and is beautifully made. Cheers, Scotty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suits Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Awesome man, cheers . £400 for a ref lash is good value, considering you don't have to have a aftermarket ECU, like an AEM. I'll take a look at Akrapovic then . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. IMO the Akro and Berks make the difference, torque was a tad higher 280lb/ft rings a bell, and the power delivery is night and day across the range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will370z Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 Must not read this thread.........nothing to see here.......move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ioneabee Posted May 29, 2012 Share Posted May 29, 2012 +1 must ........ not ....... look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suits Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 From a NASP remap/re-flash I'd always be looking for more usable power and torque anyway, all in the midrange. Some people see it as a fail if you only make an extra 11hp at 7,200rpm, but they dont see the increase at say 4,000rpm, which is where it counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 torque was a tad higher 280lb/ft rings a bell You cant compare the torque between the hub and wheel dyno but the gains are always approx the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 Ha ha, Zeditis, Zeditis!!! Must not read this thread.........nothing to see here.......move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyZ Posted May 30, 2012 Author Share Posted May 30, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature I believe George (GMAN) went to RS Tuning in Leeds which I would imagine explains the difference in figures between his and mine - bearing in mind we have the same mods. Do RS Tuning measure at the fly/hubs/wheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted May 30, 2012 Share Posted May 30, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature I believe George (GMAN) went to RS Tuning in Leeds which I would imagine explains the difference in figures between his and mine - bearing in mind we have the same mods. Do RS Tuning measure at the fly/hubs/wheels? I beleive they measure at the wheel. This will lead to some discrepency in numbers which we are seeing. Not that you can easily compare anyones numbers, but Georges seem higher than I'd seen before. RS Tuning dyno would expain it. So really about the same as anyone else. As Mark says, the difference between the before and after is what counts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature No just a superior car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted May 31, 2012 Share Posted May 31, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature No just a superior car How big was that last fish you caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature No just a superior car No just on a dyno we know reads consistently higher than Abbey's 300+@WHP is more than enough for anyone, we should all be very happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 ......... 300+@WHP is more than enough for anyone, we should all be very happy Hmmmm maybe I should have listened to you 6 months, 2 engines and a bucket load of cash ago!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 ......... 300+@WHP is more than enough for anyone, we should all be very happy Hmmmm maybe I should have listened to you 6 months, 2 engines and a bucket load of cash ago!! But then I wouldnt have a couple of epic threads to read Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted June 1, 2012 Share Posted June 1, 2012 I have a similar set up but got slightly better results, went from 306 on the first dyno, to 320.3 when properly remapped. What dyno was that on? Most we've seen have been from Abbey on they Dynapack, 320@hub sounds high compared to theirs. Maybe you have a freak of nature No just a superior car No just on a dyno we know reads consistently higher than Abbey's 300+@WHP is more than enough for anyone, we should all be very happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deank93 Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 If i'm reading this right are you saying that even after spending all that money on exhausts, berks and an uprev you get nowhere near the quoted factory figures for a bog standard car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 If i'm reading this right are you saying that even after spending all that money on exhausts, berks and an uprev you get nowhere near the quoted factory figures for a bog standard car? I believe these guys are talking in WHP, not BHP. WHP doesn't try to dial out transmission losses by guesswork and just gives you the hp measured at the wheel and is always lower for that reason. what you really want to look at are the gains rather than the final number, as all dynos read differently anyway. Also, RE; factory power figures, the only cars i've ever heard of consistently meeting or exceeding their stock figures when dyno'd as stock are beemers, evertyhing else is wishful thinking. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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