captint Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Have to say they look Phil! and they cost phil....!! A brake upgrade on a Cayman S makes it as quick round a track as a current 911 - a 30 bhp difference. Cost that as an upgrade on the Zed! Are these that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Have to say they look Phil! and they cost phil....!! A brake upgrade on a Cayman S makes it as quick round a track as a current 911 - a 30 bhp difference. Cost that as an upgrade on the Zed! Are these that good? Get spending mate! TBH I don't know. It was just an example, but the point with the Porsche ones is a higher operating temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 EBC red and DS2500 are worlds apart.DS2500 are not agressive to the disc. Have you used both? In what conditions? Yes we test all pads on road and track, our market is heavily toward performance rather than price if I tell you we sell on average 100 plus sets of DS2500 per week that will give you an idea of how poular they are. We stock lots of other specialist track pads from every name you could think of and some you will never have heard of but for a pad that gives the right road feel can be used on track and not be concerned about destroying the discs then DS2500 is the pad to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Have to say they look Phil! and they cost phil....!! A brake upgrade on a Cayman S makes it as quick round a track as a current 911 - a 30 bhp difference. Cost that as an upgrade on the Zed! Are these that good? Get spending mate! TBH I don't know. It was just an example, but the point with the Porsche ones is a higher operating temperature. that kinda money wud give me a tempature..........!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptist Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Id defo do the suspension and brakes before a power upgrade (I did it the other way round the 1st and 2nd time) Its only when you drive this car with a proper setup for suspension and brakes do you realise how important it is. Even just change the pads, the Nissan jobbies really are turd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captint Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Already got Tein Super streets allocated through a special deal, was planning to get everything fitted at once, hence why I'm collating parts, thought it would save me time and money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptist Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Thats even better! I did mine all in one hit this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Phil, How do I order a set of DS2500's Steve Best pads for the Z have to be the Ferodo DS2500 you will find lots of owners running these.We supply these from stock at £185 for a full car set including delivery. We can also supply EBC reds at £115 full set or yellows at £120 again including delivery. The DS2500 are so much better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 PM sent Phil,How do I order a set of DS2500's Steve Best pads for the Z have to be the Ferodo DS2500 you will find lots of owners running these.We supply these from stock at £185 for a full car set including delivery. We can also supply EBC reds at £115 full set or yellows at £120 again including delivery. The DS2500 are so much better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Removed Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 what other disks have you got? I don't want DBA's Also, will need rear pads soon, how much for ds2500 rear only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 what other disks have you got? I don't want DBA's Also, will need rear pads soon, how much for ds2500 rear only? Rear pads £85 Just out of interest why not DBA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 what other disks have you got? I don't want DBA's Also, will need rear pads soon, how much for ds2500 rear only? Rear pads £85 Just out of interest why not DBA I'm predicting that its something to do with this http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16913 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 what other disks have you got? I don't want DBA's Also, will need rear pads soon, how much for ds2500 rear only? Rear pads £85 Just out of interest why not DBA I'm predicting that its something to do with this http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16913 Thats very interesting and the first time I have seen that happen with DBA discs. We have been using these for some time now and on serious track day cars without any failures. We will have some other top drawer discs available from february which are the performance friction product I don't have confirmed prices as yet but will try to sort that in the next few days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotang Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 my god what you all on about lol im a noob you know lol was just looking for bog stand break pads that the car comes with dont do track stuff just us car for work and bit fun at weekends but the prices you gave where all well under what benfield nissan wanted for the standered pads so thanks for the heads up will start to upgrade the car after i do my first track day in feb gotang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 my god what you all on about lol im a noob you know lol was just looking for bog stand break pads that the car comes with dont do track stuff just us car for work and bit fun at weekends but the prices you gave where all well under what benfield nissan wanted for the standered pads so thanks for the heads up will start to upgrade the car after i do my first track day in feb gotang Just to try and clarify for you, the standard brembo pad is in fact a Ferodo 2000 material albeit supplied in a brembo box. The pads recommended, Ferodo DS2500 is basically a better grade pad totally suitable for normal road use although it will improve your brake performance and pedal feel. The added bonus is that they are cheaper than the standard Nissan issue. Hope that helps and sorry if it got a bit technical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 my god what you all on about lol im a noob you know lol was just looking for bog stand break pads that the car comes with dont do track stuff just us car for work and bit fun at weekends but the prices you gave where all well under what benfield nissan wanted for the standered pads so thanks for the heads up will start to upgrade the car after i do my first track day in feb gotang As Phil says, get some Ferodos or I would also recommend Red Stuff through the link on the front page of this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Phil, How do they compare to the Nismo ones as that is what I run now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphil Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Phil,How do they compare to the Nismo ones as that is what I run now. Whilst the Nismo pad is an improvement on the standard I would still say the Ferodo has the edge. The material on the Nismo is a good friction compound but what it lacks is modulation which is where the Ferodo scores. Many people talk about pads purely on how quickly they will stop the car from a hard stop, this is all well and good however performance driving requires differing degrees of modulation so that the brakes are not just used for stopping but for setting up the car pre-corner, this is where good modulation can pay huge dividends for fast B road driving and track driving. It can make quite a serious difference to how the cars aspect will be comming into a corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Phil,How do they compare to the Nismo ones as that is what I run now. Whilst the Nismo pad is an improvement on the standard I would still say the Ferodo has the edge. The material on the Nismo is a good friction compound but what it lacks is modulation which is where the Ferodo scores. Many people talk about pads purely on how quickly they will stop the car from a hard stop, this is all well and good however performance driving requires differing degrees of modulation so that the brakes are not just used for stopping but for setting up the car pre-corner, this is where good modulation can pay huge dividends for fast B road driving and track driving. It can make quite a serious difference to how the cars aspect will be comming into a corner. That sounds impressive. Shame I still don't fully understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Unless you're driving on the limits of adhesion on the road, don't worry about it!! Any of the pads will be an improvement over the standard pads, and should make for a nicer drive on the road. Go according to your budget and if you care enough get someone like Phil on board for some techy stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Will let you know what they are like as this will third will be third set. Do daily drive of 50 miles of A roads and random track days. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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