andlid Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Need a new sandwich plate ( I think ) and rather have two then none, can any recommend me one that'll do the job? only need one sensor input. 1/8 threaded bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I got mine from America, has two inputs. Fits perfect too Price $29.99 (I've pasted in a 2004 Zed not sure which yours is?) http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/oilfilte ... ead-1.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 I got mine from America, has two inputs. Fits perfect too Price $29.99 (I've pasted in a 2004 Zed not sure which yours is?) http://www.glowshiftdirect.com/oilfilte ... ead-1.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I just bought one of these £19.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130576580145? ... 1423.l2649 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 I just bought one of these £19.99 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/130576580145? ... 1423.l2649 Good find! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 14.9£ shipping...wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 14.9£ shipping...wtf What do you expect........buying from abroad....bloody foreigners.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 14.9£ shipping...wtf What do you expect........buying from abroad....bloody foreigners.... Got mine from Ian Free postage Not sure abot the address he used IAN!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Always the same, hate postage, dead money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 14.9£ shipping...wtf What do you expect........buying from abroad....bloody foreigners.... Got mine from Ian Free postage Not sure abot the address he used IAN!!! Thought you'd like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Spill it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Spill it Package arrived today addressed to - Mr Chris Neon Light Lover etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 26, 2011 Author Share Posted October 26, 2011 Spill it Package arrived today addressed to - Mr Chris Neon Light Lover etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share Posted October 29, 2011 wtf why can I only find npt threaded sandwich plates, was out earlier today to sort out my defi gauge... ended up with a lot of oil spill looks like the 'dude' fitting the sensor never looked to see if the thread where the same (brute force I guess!), I thought it was a npt since they obviously fitted in there?? So now looking for npt > pt conversion. Can anyone answer if the bspt is the same thread pitch as a pt? So getting a new splate since I guess the old one is fubared but now also need npt>pt conversions (and a professional clean of my drive ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 I believe the defi senders are 1/8 bsp male. The majority of sandwich plates have 1/8 npt females. If I remember right as well as the npt being tapered and bsp being parallel they are slightly different tpi as well, like 27 and 28. When I was looking at sandwich plates I definitely saw greddy ones with 1/8 bsp sensor holes so they would work for you. They are not cheap though. If I were you I would buy one of the 20 quid eBay ones I linked earlier and get an adaptor for your sender. Like this , http://www.airlines-pneumatics.co.uk/we ... de=S010130 For info, mine arrived a couple of days ago and the quality seems good for that amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 I believe the defi senders are 1/8 bsp male. The majority of sandwich plates have 1/8 npt females. If I remember right as well as the npt being tapered and bsp being parallel they are slightly different tpi as well, like 27 and 28. When I was looking at sandwich plates I definitely saw greddy ones with 1/8 bsp sensor holes so they would work for you. They are not cheap though. If I were you I would buy one of the 20 quid eBay ones I linked earlier and get an adaptor for your sender. Like this , http://www.airlines-pneumatics.co.uk/we ... de=S010130 For info, mine arrived a couple of days ago and the quality seems good for that amount of money. Adapter Male/Female NPT/BSP Is that not the wrong way round though? Like NPT to BSP? as I understand it PT (BSPT) is the same as BSP? Can I re-thread a NPT to BSP/PT/BSPT? < IF that's possible that's what I'll do, otherwise I think I'll blank the whole thing off for now and get a more expensive one! Isn't the TPI 27/28 the whole difference and nothing else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 No you can't rethread it the only difference is the thread so if you try and re-thread it will probably just screw it up. No pun intended Sam is correct the tpi is different ( a few people say you will get away with it) - i.e use the sensor to rethread the hole as you tighten it up - Up to you. Next option is to drill it out to 1/4 then tap it and put a 1/4 to 1/8 reducing adapter in. An adapter like the one Sam shows will work but will also pull the sensor out of the oil flow - so may defeats the object of putting it into the plate and getting a true return flow reading. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 No you can't rethread it the only difference is the thread so if you try and re-thread it will probably just screw it up. No pun intended Sam is correct the tpi is different ( a few people say you will get away with it) - i.e use the sensor to rethread the hole as you tighten it up - Up to you. Next option is to drill it out to 1/4 then tap it and put a 1/4 to 1/8 reducing adapter in. An adapter like the one Sam shows will work but will also pull the sensor out of the oil flow - so may defeats the object of putting it into the plate and getting a true return flow reading. Good luck getting my ruler out no to do some thread pitch checking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ah, I thought it was a pressure sensor. As Chris said if its a temp sensor the step adaptor won't work very well. Your best bet would be to drill it out and tap it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 Ah, I thought it was a pressure sensor. As Chris said if its a temp sensor the step adaptor won't work very well. Your best bet would be to drill it out and tap it. So drill, tap, adaptor... Messy.... Or pay silly monies for a greddy one. Bet the plug on the Greddy is located on the wrong side so wont fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 There is another, option to make an remote install of the setup and use npt > braided line> pt > adaptor ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 There is another, option to make an remote install of the setup and use npt > braided line> pt > adaptor... Thats OK for a pressure sensor - temp needs to be in the flow! and TPI is threads per inch not pitch and you won' t do it with a ruler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 Yep, I nearly made a distribution block last week but when I saw a sandwich plate for 20 quid I couldn't be bothered. All you need is a block of ally say 1" x 2" or a 2" length of 1" round bar drill through the middle of it with 11/32" drill and tap out both ends 1/8 npt... Put a male/male 1/8 npt fitting in one end and fit it to the car where the stock pressure sender goes and put the stock pressure sender in the other end. Then with the rest of it you can drill and tap what ever size fittings you want for your other sensors / oil feed pipes. Jobs a good'n. Just make sure you have your turbo oil feed line after the pressure sensor so you get flow across it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 30, 2011 Author Share Posted October 30, 2011 There is another, option to make an remote install of the setup and use npt > braided line> pt > adaptor... Thats OK for a pressure sensor - temp needs to be in the flow! and TPI is threads per inch not pitch and you won' t do it with a ruler http://www.roton.com/identify_threads.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Mcgoo Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Further info on the one I linked above from ebay - Having a closer look when fitting, quality isn't brilliant, although you wouldn't expect it to be for £20. It had a lot of burrs on it that needed a quick tickle with a file. Also, the the thread adaptor I was sent that fitted the Zed was too long, so when fully screwed in it didn't squeeze the sandwich plate against the engine. I had already dropped the oil out of the car so decided to alter it myself with the angle grinder to get back on the road rather than wait for another adaptor. It could of just been a one off that I was sent the wrong adaptor, but thought I should mention it. Andlid - Looking at your build thread it looks like you used the one I linked. Did you have any adaptor problems when fitting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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