stuRS Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Hi guys, My engine went bang today when travelling on the M3 for work. Car was on 80k miles. The revs trembled, I lost oil pressure and had a big cloud of white smoke puff out the pipes The AA man (had to join at roadside for £250 - if you don't have breakdown cover, get it now!) said it's got a hole in the bottom end. He took the dipstick out and it had been chewed up and twisted by the force. Soooooo - what are my options? Seems to me that a DE engine from ebay for around £2000 fitted is my best bet, but any advice/sympathy is welcome. Thanks, Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Are you sure he just didn't realise that the dipstick is meant to be twisted if you do need a new engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ouch sorry to hear that Stu. Was that from oil starvation? As Vik says, Mr Alex will have a new engine no doubt, I would imagine thats the most cost effective way to fix it, just drop it straight in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Cheers guys, The dipstick was chewed up not just twisted, it's in a pretty sorry state I've also been given part of my bottom end that the AA man found on the roadside! My oil pressure was slightly lower than normal a couple of weeks ago so I topped it up with the right oil and was planning on getting it to Abbey for a P3 service. Frustrating knowing that it was probably caused by high mileage for work (2000 a month) and poor maintainance on my part. Straight engine swap is best bet if I'm going to get it going again, but I've considered selling it as is for around £4000 or even breaking it. Gutted is an understatement. Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSensible Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Yikes, that's rubbish mate. Still, a good excuse to drop a VQ35HR in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Will the HR go in? Also my gearbox had been grinding on 5th & 6th, so if I'm swapping the engine I should really do the gearbox aswel. I've had it uprev'd by Abbey and I'm worried I'm going to lose my mapping rights, which is the majority of the cost if I remember correctly. And just to make this situation even more painful for me, I was hoping to sell the car relatively soon for a 5 door, as there's now a 'baby stuRS' on the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumping350 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 That sucks man sorry to hear, same thing happened with my mr2 funningly emough on the m3 too!!! god im gonna go change my oil now!! if it is oil starvavtion what a bummer to go may have been an underlying problem somewhere else and was burning oil. Drop new puppy in there and bring the smile back to your face try breaking cars on ebay too they never get listed an as an engine and may come up cheaper if you can strike a deal with them for example http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Breaking-Niss ... 20ba7f7592 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks mate, I've had bike engines blow before but never a car. Wasn't a problem when it went, no locking wheels or grinding noises, just sucks now I'm having to pay for it. Called the guy with the breaker in that link - he wanted £1295 + VAT. When I said I can get one for £1800 fitted he said "I'd advise you go for that one then sir" W@nker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Bummer to hear that m8, if you were planning changing the car may aswell advertise it on ebay and see how much you would get, before waying up the price of a new engine then selling it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumping350 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 sorry bad example then Yeah its tough times now but once youve got an engine secured things wont seem so gloomy, mine was the same no warning no lights just bang...big end in the road...above is a good shout too you never know someone may want to put something else in the zed somewhere and could be right up there street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Bad times. Sorry to hear about your troubles mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 ZMANALEX is the way forward A few years ago I know someone on the forum who was quoted £10k for a new one from Nissan. Hope you get it sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Stu, I can flash the ECU back to stock and then you can sell the license on or we can buy it back; The HR conversion isnt easy we are just doing the said conversion , there are a lot of stuff different that is need to do the conversion and the wiring is a major job we have found out. Give me a ring tomorrow to discuss the Uprev stuff thou. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Blown engine sucks. I had a similar thing on my R1... missus dumped me and moved out, I got made reduntant and my car was having problems, so I decided to MOT the R1 and have some fun on that. Took it to the MOT place, it passed first time, came out, did a wheelie and BANG... gearbox blew up. Garages wanted about 1500quid to fix. I bought a complete low mileage engine / gearbox off ebay for 400quid, fitted it myself in about 3 hours and had it back on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 You might like to read this recent thread about fitting a HR engine as a replacement for a DE engine. Would cost a whole lot more than the £2k you might be thinking about, aside from the aggravation viewtopic.php?f=31&t=54314&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted October 5, 2011 Author Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thanks everyone, Mark - I'll give you a call tomorrow, my brother's zed is with you now so we might be able to swap it to his or something? RabbitStew - I'm going to atempt the same journey tomorrow on my R1 . What model have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 damn Stu sorry to hear about your miss fortune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Unlucky mate That sux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 RabbitStew - I'm going to atempt the same journey tomorrow on my R1 . What model have you got? Ive a 1999 blue one. Had it since it was 2 years old. Did about 40k on the old engine, new engine only has about 5k on it. Ive rejetted it all, modded the airbox, full race titanium akropovic exhaust, race fairing, no headlamps, no indicators, harris 916 style dampner, crash bungs, single seat and the rear light replaced by some leds in the seat unit. Needless to say the MOT man has to be a little "friendly". Ive got it in bits atm as im just about respray it and stick some new Yamaha graphics on it. Im also trying to do something with the underseat plastic to make it look better although im not sure what to do yet. I dont want to forkout loads for one of these after market undertray things. Which R1 have you got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 You could try our new trader A1 auto spares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saifgkhan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 have you got a engine sorted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuRS Posted October 6, 2011 Author Share Posted October 6, 2011 I have a supply and fit for £2000 available, recon engine with 6 month warranty. Currently considering my options of parting with the car for £4000 as it is. This sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saifgkhan Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 am not being funny mate but i seen a program on bbc 1 called rouge traders recon engines are not worth it. if you ring nissan and price the engine parts up you will see the difference in the price and then it makes you think how can a company sell it for £2000. if i was you i would buy a second hand one save the hassle and agro involved with recons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlp Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 Sorry to hear that dude, my oil was low last week but sure as am happy I checked it and topped up now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyBoy Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 am not being funny mate but i seen a program on bbc 1 called rouge traders recon engines are not worth it. if you ring nissan and price the engine parts up you will see the difference in the price and then it makes you think how can a company sell it for £2000. if i was you i would buy a second hand one save the hassle and agro involved with recons. Saying recon engines are not worth it because the BBC says all breakers are rip-off artists is a bit of a sweeping statement. There are plenty of honest breakers who'll sell the original engine as it came out of the car, and many specialists (some of them on here) who'll do reconditioned parts for pretty reasonable prices. The reason Nissan charge so much for their parts is because they can, simple as. you can find genuine Nissan parts brand new for half what the stealers will charge without much trouble (again, from traders on here) so using Nissan list price as a guide is always going to make anything else look suspiciously cheap. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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