SteveRS Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Would the type of paint being used affect the match quality, for example between metallic or just a gloss finish? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacky Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 I've seen Wasso's as well and no disrespect but the paintwork was not good. If your going to do at all, do it properly which isn't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garetgax Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 an alternative would be to wrap it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted July 15, 2011 Share Posted July 15, 2011 an alternative would be to wrap it? Vinyl wrapping is a nightmare to look after. A paint job will always look much better and costs about the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRS Posted July 15, 2011 Author Share Posted July 15, 2011 Well lets hope they do a good job on mine, im dropping it down there tomorrow morning so they can make a start on it. I'll make my expectations clear when i drop it off. I was feeling quite positive about it, until this evening, after all i thought they came highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 . If it was my bodyshop I would have never let the car out the yard until I had sorted it out correctly. Neilp if you understood the situation, you'd know you had no choice. We are fully aware of the colour match on Wasso's car. A good painter is just a good painter. They will still need to order the paint from somewhere else. The kit was arranged to be sprayed on site without his car meaning there was no chance for a colour match. We can only go by the colour code of the car. We had 2 days to do this. Spray 1 day. Fit it the next. Wasso came to us wanting to fit and leave on the same day. The pant mixer had to mix without a sample and nothing to compare with knowing there was a few shades from the same colour code. Wasso's boot was also a different colour compared to the car ad that's not sprayed by us. Even if we did a test there wasn't a car to compare to. We've offered to respray it and it will be done at a later date. If you look at other people who had used our service such as coldel, hadZ and HaydnH you'll find they're happy with our work not to mention black with a metallic flick is much harder to match. Steve we assure you your car is in good hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 . If it was my bodyshop I would have never let the car out the yard until I had sorted it out correctly. Neilp if you understood the situation, you'd know you had no choice. We are fully aware of the colour match on Wasso's car. A good painter is just a good painter. They will still need to order the paint from somewhere else. The kit was arranged to be sprayed on site without his car meaning there was no chance for a colour match. We can only go by the colour code of the car. We had 2 days to do this. Spray 1 day. Fit it the next. Wasso came to us wanting to fit and leave on the same day. The pant mixer had to mix without a sample and nothing to compare with knowing there was a few shades from the same colour code. Wasso's boot was also a different colour compared to the car ad that's not sprayed by us. Even if we did a test there wasn't a car to compare to. We've offered to respray it and it will be done at a later date. If you look at other people who had used our service such as coldel, hadZ and HaydnH you'll find they're happy with our work not to mention black with a metallic flick is much harder to match. Steve we assure you your car is in good hands. It's good to see a trader come on and answer peoples comments in detail. Always 2 sides to a story Oh, and there's a PM coming your way for a full respray soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 . If it was my bodyshop I would have never let the car out the yard until I had sorted it out correctly. Neilp if you understood the situation, you'd know you had no choice. We are fully aware of the colour match on Wasso's car. A good painter is just a good painter. They will still need to order the paint from somewhere else. The kit was arranged to be sprayed on site without his car meaning there was no chance for a colour match. We can only go by the colour code of the car. We had 2 days to do this. Spray 1 day. Fit it the next. Wasso came to us wanting to fit and leave on the same day. The pant mixer had to mix without a sample and nothing to compare with knowing there was a few shades from the same colour code. Wasso's boot was also a different colour compared to the car ad that's not sprayed by us. Even if we did a test there wasn't a car to compare to. We've offered to respray it and it will be done at a later date. If you look at other people who had used our service such as coldel, hadZ and HaydnH you'll find they're happy with our work not to mention black with a metallic flick is much harder to match. Steve we assure you your car is in good hands. kudos for that answer, if you didnt have at least a panel to match it with then hard to know how to mix the paint. Post some pics up of the re-spray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 I've only just picked this thread up after being on holiday and thought I'd post. Arrangements were extremly tight and the boys did a great job considering. The deal was as promised and to schedule unlike some outfits who can't keep to deadlines. We were both on the understanding the match may not be perfect but as an understanding customer it would be based on a trial to see the outcome. Since fitting it has been noted the colour is off, but if you look at the paint face on to certain panels there isn't a missmatch. Half the problem is the material such as plastic and carbon fibre as they refract the light differently to metals. If the paint job was that bad we'd be all returning our cars because the fuel filler cap doesn't match the rest of the car A further agreement has been made by Taras and Ray to respray the panels and blend if necessary as a matter of completing the job proffesionaly. As mentioned, I wanted the car for Wales the day after they had finished. In addition they originally sourced the paint mix externally. As a result of this they have moved towards in-house paint supply and mixing to ensure such issues don't occur again. So Neil I think you're being a bit harsh with your statements without knowing the full story. By the way, I'm not the only Zed out there with a colour match issue. Since the work a large majority of people have stepped forward with similar issues. Maybe their painters are blind also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 an alternative would be to wrap it? Vinyl wrapping is a nightmare to look after. A paint job will always look much better and costs about the same. I have to disagree on this one big guy. My vinly wrap is very easy to look after and am not sure paint is a couple grand better than out wraps lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRS Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 . If it was my bodyshop I would have never let the car out the yard until I had sorted it out correctly. Neilp if you understood the situation, you'd know you had no choice. We are fully aware of the colour match on Wasso's car. A good painter is just a good painter. They will still need to order the paint from somewhere else. The kit was arranged to be sprayed on site without his car meaning there was no chance for a colour match. We can only go by the colour code of the car. We had 2 days to do this. Spray 1 day. Fit it the next. Wasso came to us wanting to fit and leave on the same day. The pant mixer had to mix without a sample and nothing to compare with knowing there was a few shades from the same colour code. Wasso's boot was also a different colour compared to the car ad that's not sprayed by us. Even if we did a test there wasn't a car to compare to. We've offered to respray it and it will be done at a later date. If you look at other people who had used our service such as coldel, hadZ and HaydnH you'll find they're happy with our work not to mention black with a metallic flick is much harder to match. Steve we assure you your car is in good hands. I know guys, i've seen the pics. Im well impressed with the work done so far and the fact that you have taken the time to send me pics of the progress is brilliant, im really looking forward to seeing the zed finished. Some pics of the progress so far. There was not a panel on the car that didn't have a scratch on ding when i dropped it off (not my doing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Neilp Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 an alternative would be to wrap it? Vinyl wrapping is a nightmare to look after. A paint job will always look much better and costs about the same. I have to disagree on this one big guy. My vinly wrap is very easy to look after and am not sure paint is a couple grand better than out wraps lol Lol it's because you don't drive like I do mines is a complete nightmare and if I could go back and paint it I would. Total pain in the arse with bubbles, peeling etc. It's all burst from stones around the wheel arch. For the money I paid I could have my painter do the car for much much less and just used vinyl for the doors. I appreciate rt-performance replying about ians car. I just hope that it does get sorted for ians sake and when it does then I'll give praise. My car got damaged 3 days before a show and had a fair amount of last minute work done. I still made it to the show and nobody would have been any the wiser to it. GM is also a very hard colour to match and my painter would have never let me have the car back until it was correct. Paulies car also took 13 coats of paint to match the ultra pearl yellow gt4 colour on the new spoiler and once again wouldn't release the car until it was spot on. I sincerely hope it gets sorted soon for you Ian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will370z Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Good luck with the respray, will be a stunner. Just to give you confidence I saw coldels rear end last weekend and they did a great job on that, perfect match on the kuro and it looked great, was impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 +1 (the paint job, not Col's rear!) Good luck with the respray, will be a stunner. Just to give you confidence I saw coldels rear end last weekend and they did a great job on that, perfect match on the kuro and it looked great, was impressed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRS Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Thanks Guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnH Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 GM is also a very hard colour to match and my painter would have never let me have the car back until it was correct. So they would have forced you to miss the meet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 GM is also a very hard colour to match and my painter would have never let me have the car back until it was correct. So they would have forced you to miss the meet? Nope. That is exactly my point. He would have worked all night to get it ready... Which he did. I'm sure it happened on the Wednesday and I had the car back on friday. At the show in Saturday looking as good as new. I don't want to be debating this as rt has answered very honestly and openly. They have made arrangements with Ian. So really the proof will be once ians car is spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Saw Steve's car last week as I was in there, looks a lot redder than the photo shows (just goes to show photos don't show the exact shade you would seeing it for real) and it hadn't even gotten to the tidy and polish stages which will really bring it up, so far looking very nice Steve. +1 on my rear end, not only is it a thing of beauty but the colour match is absolutely spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmck13 Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hi Steve Looking forward to seeing the finished product, looking good undercoat wise, so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taras Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Steve, Car is now freshly lacquered: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragus Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Looks good! Can't beat a freshly painted car - how will the sills look against the new paint? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 how thick will this paint be compared to the paper thin nissan one? Bet it'll class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveRS Posted July 22, 2011 Author Share Posted July 22, 2011 That looks...........AMAZING!!! Really happy with your work so far guys, especially for sending me all the pics and keeping me up to date with the progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 By the way, I'm not the only Zed out there with a colour match issue. Since the work a large majority of people have stepped forward with similar issues. Maybe their painters are blind also? Even Nissan cant get the paint match right. The problem is not the material, but its getting the metal flecks in the paint to all "face" the same way. I had this shown to me first hand by my local sprayer (who incidentally doesnt now do it unfortunately). For my old GM there were two paint codes and on a swatch one of them matched perfectly. They did a patch repair of my bumber and got the match spot on, but he said it had to be blended into the other panels as due to the way the flecks would lie would mean the paint reflects differently at different angles. This is why stone chips virtually never appear the same colour as the car. And also why filler caps dont match panels as the flecks are all alligned differently and not blended into the panels around them. I'm not supprised that RT didnt get the colour match if they didnt have the car to blend it to or even match the paint to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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