captain Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Went with PIMM to Keevil Airfield for a track day yesterday. Good fun but they are VERY picky about behaviour - we were black flagged in the first session for "swapping" and I was black-flagged at the end of the day after a 40-yard sideways skid followed by over-correction in to a field trying to take the long right-hander flat out. PIMM reckons it can be done so lets wait to see his videos posted to find out how 'cos I couldn't do it. Pity my memory card maxxed out a few laps before - was quite a spectacular fail. Weather was damp in the morning and better after lunch. Well organised and friendly but no atmosphere and quite miserable for spectators. 2 portaloos and a burger van. TBH I'd rather pay the extra for Castle Combe where you get atmosphere, enjoyment for spectators, a good lunch and you don't get black-flagged for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abC6553YsgI No danger to anybody and very mild. Couldn't believe I was black-flagged later for pushing hard. There was nobody near me and no damage to car. Here's a few photos and a video of some quick laps (3 at 1:16 each time) and a little slide. All done with TCS off and D1 Throttle Contoller at SP3. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9hORZw_Zs4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordGrover Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 MSE are usually hard but fair. Layout looks different to when I last did Keevil - same circuit-ish but in reverse. Odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Never been on a track to be honest so not sure of the etiquette but I thought the whole point of a track day was so you can trash the nuts out of it in a controlled environment!? Some great snaps mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacW Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 See! Sunsets are faster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Yeah noticed that on YouTube. Respected their decision, just didn't agree with it. If I want to tussle with PIMM (at a safe distance) or drive at 80 mph round a corner and lose the back-end, as long as nobody else is around and the car is undamaged, I don't see a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 See! Sunsets are faster! True. Only cars that overtook me all day was the Atom and 2 of the 3 Caterhams. Notable victims include Boxster S, M3 EVO (above) 3.2 and Impreza (above) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Never been on a track to be honest so not sure of the etiquette but I thought the whole point of a track day was so you can trash the nuts out of it in a controlled environment!? Some great snaps mate! My experience at Castle Combe is that as long as you don't disturb other cars, you can do what the F you like. "Your car - your life" This was track days as if run by a Labour Government. The photos would have been really good if there was a spectator area but there wasn't. Had to stand by the marshalls at the pit lane and nowhere else. Understandable in some areas in case someone decides to drive off-piste at speed but pretty miserable if you come as a female +1 and all you've got to look forward to for the next 8 hours is a soggy ar*e in the portaloo followed by soggy chips in the burger van. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 O dear black flags now I'm really worried ya nutter! What size memory card are you using? Great vid and pics (like the slide ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 This was track days as if run by the Labour Government. So you were made to drive against slower, cheaper, less competent cars who were given a 2 lap headstart to ensure that they were not disadvantaged, therefore giving the inferior car the impression that it was able to compete with the more able and expensive car, which ultimately resulted in the inferior car biting off more than it could chew, buying some NOS on H/P rather than increasing its power a bit at a time, then falling behind with the payments, having its NOS repossessed and ending up scrapped as it became clear that it wasn't really good enough to stand up on its own and was no longer financially viable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 O dear black flags now I'm really worried ya nutter! What size memory card are you using? Great vid and pics (like the slide ) So pi**ed-off that didn't get the last off on film. Tried the long right-hander as fast as I could but felt myself going sideways (parallel slide - not spin) for about 30-40 yards. Thought I'd caught it but then I was suddenly going backwards in to a field and took off a few inches when the tarmac changed to stones/gravel before coming back down in the field with grass and dust flying through the windows. Fantastic 4-wheel marks left in the tarmac with a figure-of-eight half way through when I changed direction. TBH I think they black-flagged me because I carried on and didn't return to the pit to check the car so on reflection, maybe fair enough. This sort of thing is limited to airfields and won't be repeated anywhere near any tyre-walls, believe me. To put it in to perspective, when you take the last right-hander at Castle Combe, imagine trying it at 70 and not 50 and you'll understand. 8gb? It's taped to the tow bar so can't get at the card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 O dear black flags now I'm really worried ya nutter! What size memory card are you using? Great vid and pics (like the slide ) your engine and tyres will leave him hanging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 your engine and tyres will leave him hanging Its not a race Captain is going to show me all the right lines and breaking points for CC and we are going to have a gentle pootle round the track Captain - I got 2 £7 cameras and have ordered 2 8GB cards so I can have them front and back just need to get int he same group as you...... If not I'll be bringing my camera along as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think Keyser is playing the "blushing bride" role at the church only to reveal a box of tricks come lights out, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 your engine and tyres will leave him hanging Its not a race Captain is going to show me all the right lines and breaking points for CC and we are going to have a gentle pootle round the track Captain - I got 2 £7 cameras and have ordered 2 8GB cards so I can have them front and back just need to get int he same group as you...... If not I'll be bringing my camera along as well ah yeah we all know what will happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I think Keyser is playing the "blushing bride" role at the church only to reveal a box of tricks come lights out, if you know what I mean. I do... he'll smoke you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 your engine and tyres will leave him hanging Its not a race Captain is going to show me all the right lines and breaking points for CC and we are going to have a gentle pootle round the track Captain - I got 2 £7 cameras and have ordered 2 8GB cards so I can have them front and back just need to get int he same group as you...... If not I'll be bringing my camera along as well We should get in the same group no probs. Happy to show you the lines either passenger in mine or me in yours. Don't forget the day comes with a couple of laps with an instructor in a Focus if you want where they show you the lines etc. and they'll come out with you and give extra tuition in the Z if you want. If you really want a thrill, ask one of them to drive you round in your Z. That'll get your heart pumping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. He'll need to let the try pressure down anyway You had me on the DIY part but then I saw the pics of you working on the car, you make no fool of me anymore lol anyway enjoy and get good vids, only thing keeping me sain these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 14, 2011 Author Share Posted June 14, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. 2 psi, if you don't mind. Don't lose the caps........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. 2 psi, if you don't mind. Don't lose the caps........... Love it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Nice pics Capt'n. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacW Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 This was track days as if run by the Labour Government. So you were made to drive against slower, cheaper, less competent cars who were given a 2 lap headstart to ensure that they were not disadvantaged, therefore giving the inferior car the impression that it was able to compete with the more able and expensive car, which ultimately resulted in the inferior car biting off more than it could chew, buying some NOS on H/P rather than increasing its power a bit at a time, then falling behind with the payments, having its NOS repossessed and ending up scrapped as it became clear that it wasn't really good enough to stand up on its own and was no longer financially viable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. 2 psi, if you don't mind. Don't lose the caps........... Loose more then that and keep the caps off so you don't burn your fingers checking tire pressure again later on do you have any close-up pics of your tires after a track session? Would be interested to compare and see how they performed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Am I that transparent ??? I didn't spend all day Saturday sorting the SC (and chipping my nails ) for fun you know. Actually it was fun but that's not the point. The plan was to lull Captain into a false sense of security - failing that I can always let his tyres down. 2 psi, if you don't mind. Don't lose the caps........... Loose more then that and keep the caps off so you don't burn your fingers checking tire pressure again later on do you have any close-up pics of your tires after a track session? Would be interested to compare and see how they performed. I'll post up after the 7th. Don't take the pressure down that much because only out for 15 minutes each session. If it's open pit in the afternoon and I go out for longer, will take them down to 30 maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choptop Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 If I had been in the car you could have blamed me for being black flagged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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