Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 im bored so going to watch this.. http://microsites.jaguar.com/LondonLivestream/gl-en/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky370z Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 its absolutely packed in there!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 haha epic timing fail!!! :lol: listenign to musac is the way forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 A blue stage with some empty seats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 right sod watching it http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArtic ... rs/256876/ Jaguar has decided to turn its hugely impressive jet-powered C-X75 hybrid concept into a £700,000, Bugatti Veyron-beating flagship for production in 2013 – and is enlisting the aid of the Williams F1 team to do it. The deal, a momentous decision that will affect everything Jaguar does for decades to come, was announced in London this morning by Tata chief Carl-Peter Forster, with Sir Frank Williams in attendance. It will involve a direct technology transfer between the partners, especially over lightweight structures, and brings Tata ever closer to the F1 connection that has often been rumoured. See pics of the Jaguar C-X75 in action Jaguar is planning 250 cars, and continues to work on the jet-powered concept for C-X75. It will eventually sell a limited number of them, but the there are strong indications that the majority of cars will use a 'highly boosted' 1.6-litre engine related to the four-cylinder engine Williams and other F1 teams will adopt from 2013. Williams currently uses a Cosworth engine, made in Northamptonshire. The production C-X75 (the concept name is being kept "for the time being", but won't necessarily make production) will have electric drive motors on the front and rear axles and thus have four-wheel-drive. No detail of the powertrain is available, but it seems probable that the four-cylinder engine, which could easily produce 500bhp-plus, will power the wheels in parallel with the electric motors. Read Autocar's first drive of the Jaguar C-X75 Total power could amount to as much as 1000 bhp, but the car will also have an electric-only mode for urban use. Jaguar promises a 200mph top speed, zero to 100mph acceleration in less than six seconds and an all-electric range of about 30 miles. Jaguar bosses believe it is paramount that the car should not merely have been given a tuned version of their familiar V8 range, but should be an embodiment of their determination to get to grips with future technology. "People expect us to be innovators," says Adrian Hallmark, Jaguar brand director. "The C-X75 received an incredible reception as a concept car. We've been building on that momentum and there is a clear business case for the exclusive halo model. No other vehicle will better signify Jaguar's renewed confidence and excellence in technological innovation than this." Read more on the original Jaguar C-X75 concept The C-X75, tipped to retail at between £700,000 and £900,000 when it hits the market in two years' time, will be designed, engineered and built entirely in Britain. Both turbo and jet-powered versions will use a carbonfibre tub chassis, expected to weigh less than 1400 kilograms and to feature much Williams composite construction know-how. Jaguar bosses are not saying where the car will be built, but so far much of the work has been done at the Whitley engineering centre, near Coventry. The production shape will be very close to the concept, with only minor dimensional changes and alterations to aerodynamic equipment and air scoops and outlets. See pics of the Jaguar C-X75 in action Of the 250 cars to be built, more than 200 are likely to be four-cylinder turbos. The version using a pair of miniature Bladon gas turbine engines to drive generators will come late in the programme: there is much development still to be done, not least coping with the 380degC jet-pipe temperatures. Tata, Jaguar's owner, last year acquired an interest in Worcestershire-based gas turbine R&D company, Bladon Jets. In either version, electric power will be stored in a 230 kilogram lithium-ion battery bank carried in the spine of the car's carbon tub. Jaguar insiders say performance may even exceed the remarkable figures quoted for the 1350kg show car at its unveiling in Paris last year. Read Autocar's first drive of the Jaguar C-X75 At the time, the project's lead engineer Nigel Taylor forecast a top speed around 205 mph, 0-60 mph acceleration in around three seconds, 0-100 mph in 5.5 seconds, and most remarkable of all a 0-300km/h (186 mph) time of just 15.5 seconds. Meanwhile CO2 emissions are forecast at less than 100g/km of CO2, an amazingly low figure for such a potent car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky370z Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 and its a................................................ Mclaren F1 tis nce tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 and its a................................................ mclearen F1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 The concept of a Jet car sounds fantastic, but I wonder if Jaguar will learn from previous lessons of the XJ220. That was originally billed as a 6.2L V12, 4WD, 220mph, £360k car. What customers were presented with was a RWD, £400k+, sub 220mph car with a 3.5L V6 lifted mainly from a metro 6R4. So its certainly bold to start spouting figures of £700k for a jet powered veyron beater The performance figures however seem to be lower than the upcoming MP12-4C and for four times the price. The emissions are lower though - so at least the taxman wont be able to extract the urine on VED. For that reason, its brilliant! I really hope they get the emissions below the 100g/km figure - that would be just laughable! You could get away with driving a supercar and paying Zero road tax and avoid the London Congestion Charge :lol: Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 The emissions are lower though - so at least the taxman wont be able to extract the urine on VED. For that reason, its brilliant! I really hope they get the emissions below the 100g/km figure - that would be just laughable! You could get away with driving a supercar and paying Zero road tax and avoid the London Congestion Charge :lol: Brilliant! have to agree that would be hilarious. best quote i've heard so far relating to this car is: "Basically, F**k you Jeremy Clarkson!" You know they did build that version of the XJ220... and they unnoficially did a high speed run of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 1.6L 4-pot + 4 electric motors = Veyron beater? I don't think so, Jaguar. Chesterfield's got this one spot-on, this is another XJ220 all over again. If you're paying £900K for a hypercar you don't care about the road tax, you expect the ultimate. Regardless of what the bods at F1 want us to think, a 4-banger isn't the ultimate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky370z Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 1.6L 4-pot + 4 electric motors = Veyron beater? I don't think so, Jaguar. Chesterfield's got this one spot-on, this is another XJ220 all over again. If you're paying £900K for a hypercar you don't care about the road tax, you expect the ultimate. Regardless of what the bods at F1 want us to think, a 4-banger isn't the ultimate. +1 if you have over 700 k to spend on a car then would u worry about VED i very much doubt it. i would want a V16 turbo/supercharged monster that would suck small children through the front grill for that kinda money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 i would want a V16 turbo/supercharged monster that would suck small children through the front grill for that kinda money. this appeals to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 +1 if you have over 700 k to spend on a car then would u worry about VED i very much doubt it. Its not the cost of the road tax that would bother them, but more the principal behind it. Ive said it before and probably sound like a stuck record on it, but a system that uses emissions as its basis for deciding the charge should take into account the usage of the vehicle if its to be fair. The key is the KM part of the g/km figure they use (or dont as the case may be). Ive just had the MOT on the zed and its done about 1000 miles since last time. That equates to 437Kg of CO2. The Altea has done about 8000 miles which equates to about 2.1 metric tons of CO2, almost five times as much, but the Z costs £70 more in road tax. And Im one of the "lucky" ones whos Z is registered prior to 1st March 06, otherwise it would be £270 more, almost 2.5 times as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted May 6, 2011 Author Share Posted May 6, 2011 +1 if you have over 700 k to spend on a car then would u worry about VED i very much doubt it. Its not the cost of the road tax that would bother them, but more the principal behind it. Ive said it before and probably sound like a stuck record on it, but a system that uses emissions as its basis for deciding the charge should take into account the usage of the vehicle if its to be fair. The key is the KM part of the g/km figure they use (or dont as the case may be). Ive just had the MOT on the zed and its done about 1000 miles since last time. That equates to 437Kg of CO2. The Altea has done about 8000 miles which equates to about 2.1 metric tons of CO2, almost five times as much, but the Z costs £70 more in road tax. And Im one of the "lucky" ones whos Z is registered prior to 1st March 06, otherwise it would be £270 more, almost 2.5 times as much. never really thought of it like that! really valid point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Indeed - thats why I really hope the Jaguar makes it in under the 100g/km. In fact the sooner all supercars and cars in general can reach todays level of performance and practicality while pumping out almost fresh air, the better. It may then force the governement at the time to look at a much fairer way of charging based on usage or wear and tear on the roads etc. Though how we will ever get a system like that without a whole network of "big brother watching you" roads, I dont know. Perhaps its better the stick in the throat of paying over the odds for minimal usage in a supercar than to have your movements monitored and the ability to press the loud pedal every now and then without being spotted by the eye in the sky... Anyway back to topic - a target of production for this car in 2013 is pretty ambitious. I know they've said the jet engined variety will be late in the production cycle, but still, developing a whole new turbine engine and coupling this to a cars drivetrain and making the whole thing work in 24 months is some goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 I'll have a tenner now that we never, ever see a single jet-powered Jag on the roads in my lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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