rtbiscuit Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 don't mind travelling, not sure of the location; just know its about 186 miles away. i've travelled for most of my cars, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 don't mind travelling, not sure of the location; just know its about 186 miles away. i've travelled for most of my cars, And a nice journey home maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisS Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 The ski boat I drive is LPG. (big V8) Only problem we ever get is 'iceing up' we need to warm it up for 10 mins at the begining and end of the season when it's cold. But it is cooled by water from the lake, so that would not happen in a car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cesc Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 MK4 R32 The price of LPG is now 84.9p, wasn't it about half the price a few years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 MK4 R32 The price of LPG is now 84.9p, wasn't it about half the price a few years ago? not a s cheap as it used to be is it think teh national average is about 70p per litre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 MK4 R32 The price of LPG is now 84.9p, wasn't it about half the price a few years ago? not a s cheap as it used to be is it think teh national average is about 70p per litre. Have you checked out if there are many pumps near you? www.petrolprices.com is a pretty good guide to locations and price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 5, 2011 Author Share Posted January 5, 2011 MK4 R32 The price of LPG is now 84.9p, wasn't it about half the price a few years ago? not a s cheap as it used to be is it think teh national average is about 70p per litre. Have you checked out if there are many pumps near you? http://www.petrolprices.com is a pretty good guide to locations and price 2 places within 5 miles, one right next to work, and the other round the corner from my house where i normally fill up one is 73.9 the other 76.9 still cheaper than the 133.9 or 129.9 for super unleaded at the same garages. on 12,000 miles a year i'd be making an average saving of 94.00 a month Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9O OEY Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 When I was lookin for my Z I found one on e bay with a LPG conversion he said it had been done for 2 yrs so it's definitely been done before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 We have seen soooo many damaged engines due to LPG Kits. Most of the time it's poor engineers that have caused the issues or the lube bottle has been ran dry causing engines to destroy themselves (seen 2 350z's with this happen). When holes are drilled for the kits they are often done in situ causing metallic swarf to get into the engine My advice is get a nice diesel and stay away from LPG but if you really must make sure you have a good kit fitted by a reputable garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 We have seen soooo many damaged engines due to LPG Kits. Most of the time it's poor engineers that have caused the issues or the lube bottle has been ran dry causing engines to destroy themselves (seen 2 350z's with this happen). When holes are drilled for the kits they are often done in situ causing metallic swarf to get into the engine My advice is get a nice diesel and stay away from LPG but if you really must make sure you have a good kit fitted by a reputable garage cheers for the heads up; this is what plays in the back of my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 It's only my take on LPG kits mate. You might get lucky but I wouldn't chance it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 seems to be 2 distinct groups those that would stay away and those that have never had an issue. and it all seems to come down to who fitted it and what kit. the installer of the kit on the car i've seen is LPGA approved which is what your meant to look for. and i think it the romano system which again is meant to be good and also self lubricates the valves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 2 places within 5 miles, one right next to work, and the other round the corner from my house where i normally fill up one is 73.9 the other 76.9 still cheaper than the 133.9 or 129.9 for super unleaded at the same garages. on 12,000 miles a year i'd be making an average saving of 94.00 a month Is this taking into account running the car on petrol to and from work as you indicated? Also the warm up period (minimum 2 miles) has to be factored in. Losing the space in the boot wouldn't be great as I was sure you were changing cars to get a decent sized boot and extra seats. A lot of risk for a lot of compromise for you I feel. If you were commuting 100 miles a day then brilliant but I don't think you'll see much benefit really. Just my 2p worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varley16 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 We have seen soooo many damaged engines due to LPG Kits. Most of the time it's poor engineers that have caused the issues or the lube bottle has been ran dry causing engines to destroy themselves (seen 2 350z's with this happen). When holes are drilled for the kits they are often done in situ causing metallic swarf to get into the engine My advice is get a nice diesel and stay away from LPG but if you really must make sure you have a good kit fitted by a reputable garage agreed, had a fiesta in the workshop the other day, lube bottle pipe leaking, so eventually engine goes. not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 2 places within 5 miles, one right next to work, and the other round the corner from my house where i normally fill up one is 73.9 the other 76.9 still cheaper than the 133.9 or 129.9 for super unleaded at the same garages. on 12,000 miles a year i'd be making an average saving of 94.00 a month Is this taking into account running the car on petrol to and from work as you indicated? Also the warm up period (minimum 2 miles) has to be factored in. Losing the space in the boot wouldn't be great as I was sure you were changing cars to get a decent sized boot and extra seats. A lot of risk for a lot of compromise for you I feel. If you were commuting 100 miles a day then brilliant but I don't think you'll see much benefit really. Just my 2p worth. +1 A derv might be better if you want to do stupid miles and with the money saved buy a weekend car, or something small and decent on fuel like a 172 or a corolla t sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Good thread this! i have just had mine priced up at £1395 inc at Leeds LPG, due to my £300 commute fuel bill in the Z. A recommended fitters with LPG credits. But this thread has given me second thoughts. I Have a 2l MGZT diesel too but im just addicted to driving the Z i cant leave her alone! But ide save approx £100 a month so would re-coupe the pennies in 12 month'ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 6, 2011 Author Share Posted January 6, 2011 Good thread this! i have just had mine priced up at £1395 inc at Leeds LPG, due to my £300 commute fuel bill in the Z. A recommended fitters with LPG credits. But this thread has given me second thoughts. I Have a 2l MGZT diesel too but im just addicted to driving the Z i cant leave her alone! But ide save approx £100 a month so would re-coupe the pennies in 12 month'ish i'm not put off, but just alot more cautious as to what to look for. making sure its done properly and checked on a regualr basis. same as you would with a DIY FI install. they aren't just plag and play, people are always checking them and making sure they are running well. i wouldn't expect any modded car with something like this to run well if it wasn't well maintained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 Good thread this! i have just had mine priced up at £1395 inc at Leeds LPG, due to my £300 commute fuel bill in the Z. A recommended fitters with LPG credits. But this thread has given me second thoughts. I Have a 2l MGZT diesel too but im just addicted to driving the Z i cant leave her alone! But ide save approx £100 a month so would re-coupe the pennies in 12 month'ish i'm not put off, but just alot more cautious as to what to look for. making sure its done properly and checked on a regualr basis. same as you would with a DIY FI install. they aren't just plag and play, people are always checking them and making sure they are running well. i wouldn't expect any modded car with something like this to run well if it wasn't well maintained. did I read right in saying that your wanting to do it to a mk4 r32? Surely for a 2k investment you would want to do it to something better and faster (no offense). Each to their own I suppose but do you see what Im saying? Bmw e39 540i 4.4 v8 lpg converted is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 Good thread this! i have just had mine priced up at £1395 inc at Leeds LPG, due to my £300 commute fuel bill in the Z. A recommended fitters with LPG credits. But this thread has given me second thoughts. I Have a 2l MGZT diesel too but im just addicted to driving the Z i cant leave her alone! But ide save approx £100 a month so would re-coupe the pennies in 12 month'ish i'm not put off, but just alot more cautious as to what to look for. making sure its done properly and checked on a regualr basis. same as you would with a DIY FI install. they aren't just plag and play, people are always checking them and making sure they are running well. i wouldn't expect any modded car with something like this to run well if it wasn't well maintained. did I read right in saying that your wanting to do it to a mk4 r32? Surely for a 2k investment you would want to do it to something better and faster (no offense). Each to their own I suppose but do you see what Im saying? Bmw e39 540i 4.4 v8 lpg converted is nope never said i was going to do it to an R32; my first post said i had seen an R32 for sale that had already had it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 ^^ ahh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 no worries, i don't always read all of a thread these days either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 You sure you can't be tempted by an Alfa oil burner????? The idea behind not buying an Alfa is because people can't stand the constant worry of it breaking down (thats the only reason I've never got one).......if you get the R32 your going to have the same problem - just waiting for the LPG to make it go pop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 7, 2011 Author Share Posted January 7, 2011 You sure you can't be tempted by an Alfa oil burner????? The idea behind not buying an Alfa is because people can't stand the constant worry of it breaking down (thats the only reason I've never got one).......if you get the R32 your going to have the same problem - just waiting for the LPG to make it go pop! i love alfa's and would be tempted by a petrol one; with their Q4 system. might have another look tonight at them it wasn't that i was specifically looking at LPG cars, its just i was looking at R32's and found one with LPG and didn't want to discount it out without really knowing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paza3 Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 You sure you can't be tempted by an Alfa oil burner????? The idea behind not buying an Alfa is because people can't stand the constant worry of it breaking down (thats the only reason I've never got one).......if you get the R32 your going to have the same problem - just waiting for the LPG to make it go pop! i love alfa's and would be tempted by a petrol one; with their Q4 system. might have another look tonight at them it wasn't that i was specifically looking at LPG cars, its just i was looking at R32's and found one with LPG and didn't want to discount it out without really knowing more. To be fair whats worse case.... rebuild not the end of the world ..£2k??? there will always be pro/cons everyone has an experience or tale to tell , all I know is I have heard good things. Hay I have had a few Alfa's and been the most reliable cars I have had???? not like my Evo 8 which is jap of course ended up with a 3.5k engine rebuild , the most unreliable car I have ever owned! Sounds like if its serviced like clock work carried out at a decent garage your be ok... I quite like the idea of a r32 lpg really would be best of both doubt you would have any problems moving it on.... ....Just an idea but may be worth asking on the r32/vw forums as thoses chaps will be able to tell you first hand how that car may handle it?? Good luck with your quest for a new motor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350ash Posted January 7, 2011 Share Posted January 7, 2011 One point to consider in your calculations, which Stew touched on, is that your fuel economy will go down. LPG has a lower energy density than petrol and so your mpg will decrease, I don't know how much by. You'll still be saving money though as it's a lot cheaper than petrol like you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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