ug45cwb Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Ive had to fit my space saver because of a tyre problem. How much more dangerous is this than driving on normal wheels in icy/snowy conditions? Obviously I'm taking it very steady. So far it seems better for traction than the normal wheel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I'd say it would be better as it will 'cut' through the snow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I'd say it would be better as it will 'cut' through the snow. +1 - just watch out for the inbalance in grip it causes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 space savers all round FTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 You know you want to try it Lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 All these run on the same car. Skinny tyres work best in snow and on ice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 I'll take the one on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Husky Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 funny enough i have already been asking round about haviong two spacesavers in the back for the back axle instead of a shovel, even looked into studding them. the summary is: if you put studs in the tyres they will -be useless for the dry road -make very little difference for snow -need to reach an ice layer to be effective you need big tread winter tyres for snow I have already checked and the space saver size is 145 80 r17. you cant get winter tyres that size, you cant even get snow racing tyres that size. the issue is that skinny snow tyres are normally fitted to 16" and below not 17. would you really bother stripping the back axle of wheels in the snow and cold to get out of a stuck bit only to have to jack the car back up and put the normal ones back on to go back on the road? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 John, you thought about that far too much. Just buy snow/winter tyres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Even without studs, using two spacesavers would be better than the standard wheels/tyres in snow and ice as there is more chance of cutting through the ice when the wheels do spin and finding grip. But as Chris suggests, do you really want the chore of swopping wheels when the snow and ice comes and goes? Yes winter tyres are the most practical solution if you really have to use the ZED 12 months a year and snow and ice is about - but also fill up the boot with bags of rock salt to help provide some weight over the rear wheels and for use when you really do bog down and no one about to give you a push Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 1, 2010 Share Posted December 1, 2010 Yes winter tyres are the most practical solution if you really have to use the ZED 12 months a year and snow and ice is about - but also fill up the boot with bags of rock salt to help provide some weight over the rear wheels and for use when you really do bog down and no one about to give you a push 7AT gearbox FTW - drop it in drive, jump out car, it drives, you push - who needs help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 chris, you seen the video fo the guy who used that idea to try and get through a garage door? im sure someone will link the youtube clip. i have thoguht about this lots, how much chance do my 295's have of gripping in the snow i say nill. i'm going for the bags of sand option myself. need to find out the maximum loading weight over the back axle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 chris, you seen the video fo the guy who used that idea to try and get through a garage door? im sure someone will link the youtube clip. I have, hence all the LOLs after my statement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted December 2, 2010 Share Posted December 2, 2010 chris, you seen the video fo the guy who used that idea to try and get through a garage door? im sure someone will link the youtube clip. i have thoguht about this lots, how much chance do my 295's have of gripping in the snow i say nill. i'm going for the bags of sand option myself. need to find out the maximum loading weight over the back axle this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 YES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Don't forget that the space saver must always be fitted to the front axle, even if that means putting a front wheel on the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 ah true enough, scrap the idea of space savering the back axle it just isnt going to work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Don't forget that the space saver must always be fitted to the front axle, even if that means putting a front wheel on the rear. Thought the space saver went on the rear - doesnt clear the front Brembos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Don't forget that the space saver must always be fitted to the front axle, even if that means putting a front wheel on the rear. Thought the space saver went on the rear - doesnt clear the front Brembos? Got me thinking now - is that why the "bolt" is fitted to the front hubs to stop the spacesaver being used there, as you fit the rear OEM wheels on the front with the bolt in place. 2006 hand book warning notes about the spare and no other warnings I can see about not using on the front/rear axles : The T-type spare tire should be used for emergency use only. It should be replaced by the standard tire at the first opportunity. Drive carefully while the T-type spare tire is installed.Avoid sharp turns and abrupt braking while driving. Periodically check the T-type spare tire inflation pressure, and always keep it at 60 psi (420 kPa, 4.2 bar). Do not drive your vehicle at speeds faster than 50 MPH (80 km/h). Do not use tire chains on a T-type spare tire. Tire chains will not fit properly on the T-type spare tire and may cause damage to the vehicle. Tire tread of the T-type spare tire will wear at a faster rate than the standard tire. Replace the T-type spare tire as soon as the tread wear indicators appear. Because the T-type spare tire is smaller than the original tire, ground clearance is reduced. To avoid damage to the vehicle, do not drive over obstacles. Also, do not drive the vehicle through an automatic car wash since it may get caught. Do not use the T-type spare tire on other vehicles. Do not use more than one T-type spare tire at the same time. Do not tow a trailer while the T-type spare tire is installed. Which means my idea of using 2 spacesavers is out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Damn, well there goes that idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You always want more grip on the driven wheels, and as such you'd put it on the fronts. The exception to this is with FWD cars where it would go on the rear, and 4WD cars where it doesn't really matter but it should go on the rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350ash Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 Got me thinking now - is that why the "bolt" is fitted to the front hubs to stop the spacesaver being used there, as you fit the rear OEM wheels on the front with the bolt in place. You can't fit the rear OEM wheels on the front, I found this out when going to fit my winter tyres and I wondered why I couldn't get the front wheel on - I had a front tyre on a rear wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted December 3, 2010 Share Posted December 3, 2010 You always want more grip on the driven wheels, and as such you'd put it on the fronts. The exception to this is with FWD cars where it would go on the rear, and 4WD cars where it doesn't really matter but it should go on the rear. Go see if it will fit over the front Brembo's then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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