neo-ninja Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Hi All, Just been wondering if anyone has any "special" way or advice to get smooth gear changes in the Zed, Im still getting used to driving the car i would say, and now i am getting much more confident i am giving it more welly, but still find that the initial pulling away from 1st-2nd-3rd can be quite difficult to get a very smooth change. (i know the gear boxes can be cluchy when cold) I do find probably 50% of the time im bang on and its smooth but the other 50% its not. (Only when pulling away at speed) Also i know this has been asked lots before but what revs do people find the should be changing/the sweet spot to change on a stock 2005 car? Rev limiter kicks in at 6.5k but i do remember reading its actually better at around 5.5-6k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 Take your time, no need to rush it and make sure your right foot comes completely off the loud pedal. smooth beats fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 blip the accelerator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 blip the accelerator... going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 blip the accelerator... going down. heal toe - down blip - up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 what? blip when changing from 2nd to 3rd? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 what? blip when changing from 2nd to 3rd? I blip from 1st to 2nd, 3rd to 4th when I 'feel' like it, makes gear changing smoother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 but you are needing the revs to drop to go up a gear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 but you are needing the revs to drop to go up a gear... this is not under normal driving... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 makes no sense. accelerate in 1st climbs to 5500 push clutch in and blip throttle to 6500 engage 2nd which requires 3700 accelerate in 2nd etc etc makes no sense!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 maybe it's my Z... it's deffo smoother shifting like that when on say trackwork... it's from my old twin pot bike days where it was almost required to change gear up and not to get a wheel lock blip down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 just sounds like it would burn clutch as the engine loses speed to meet the wheel speed? the energy it looses is expelled as heat produced in the clutch... the more revs it has to shave off to match wheel speed the more energy it needs to lose. also does that not give a lurch forward? potentially setting off the traction control. your a crazy man anders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 just sounds like it would burn clutch as the engine loses speed to meet the wheel speed? the energy it looses is expelled as heat produced in the clutch... the more revs it has to shave off to match wheel speed the more energy it needs to lose. also does that not give a lurch forward? potentially setting off the traction control. your a crazy man anders 10min in... smooth gearing changing inside... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 the reason why it works is because it prevents you from a forced ultra quick gear change. it does work. he means a blip not a nailing. the best way to change up smoothly is by killing the clutch. problem solved...till you need a new clutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 the reason why it works is because it prevents you from a forced ultra quick gear change. it does work. he means a blip not a nailing. the best way to change up smoothly is by killing the clutch. problem solved...till you need a new clutch slipping the clutch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'll admit to being a bit lost. I'm not sure what the blip achieves really. maybe if you get over from ire you can show me anders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 just said above what i does. its not about a quick change but a smooth change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I'll admit to being a bit lost. I'm not sure what the blip achieves really. maybe if you get over from ire you can show me anders just watch the vids and you'll get it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha@lazytrips Posted October 14, 2010 Share Posted October 14, 2010 I find the fastest way is to start in the top left-hand corner with the left pedal pressed down. Then you carefully depress the pedal while AT THE SAME TIME pressing the pedal on the right. Then when the car is rolling along a bit, what you've got to do is let go of the pedal that makes all that noise and go press that pedal on the left again. Once you've managed to push it all the way to the floor, you push the gearstick thing down into the bottom left-hand corner and repeat what you did after you went into first. At this point you must be going pretty darn fast and everything in front of you is blurring into a daze, much akin to many a computer game. Take care to avoid kerbs, grannies with shopping bags, your mates in their pimped corsas and other random obstacles in the tesco car park. If you still have space before you run out of car park space, you could try changing into the gear in the middle of the three at the top, once again making good use of the clutch pedal. If you're feeling lazy and/or competing against Barry in his 43hp Citroen, you could always just go straight for the bottom right-hand corner option. This turns your gearbox into automatic mode with no need to change gears and gives it awesome sound when you're breaking through the sound barrier at 40mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I'm sure in fast and the furious don says we should be double clutching aswell Sorry Anders I could resist. I know what you mean about the blip I do it on the track sometimes by mistake just catching the revs a little higher than they should be. I come onto the throttle a little early when kecking myself seeing the man they call alex shooting up my back end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I find the fastest way is to start in the top left-hand corner with the left pedal pressed down. Then you carefully depress the pedal while AT THE SAME TIME pressing the pedal on the right. Then when the car is rolling along a bit, what you've got to do is let go of the pedal that makes all that noise and go press that pedal on the left again. Once you've managed to push it all the way to the floor, you push the gearstick thing down into the bottom left-hand corner and repeat what you did after you went into first. At this point you must be going pretty darn fast and everything in front of you is blurring into a daze, much akin to many a computer game. Take care to avoid kerbs, grannies with shopping bags, your mates in their pimped corsas and other random obstacles in the tesco car park. If you still have space before you run out of car park space, you could try changing into the gear in the middle of the three at the top, once again making good use of the clutch pedal. If you're feeling lazy and/or competing against Barry in his 43hp Citroen, you could always just go straight for the bottom right-hand corner option. This turns your gearbox into automatic mode with no need to change gears and gives it awesome sound when you're breaking through the sound barrier at 40mph. for time and effort typing that! For input value to the thread (then again I'm not known for that either) I'm sure in fast and the furious don says we should be double clutching aswell Sorry Anders I could resist. I know what you mean about the blip I do it on the track sometimes by mistake just catching the revs a little higher than they should be. I come onto the throttle a little early when kecking myself seeing the man they call alex shooting up my back end @ double clutching If you got Alex behind you no matter what you do with a N/A Z will help I'd say... (unless you block him from passing that is ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 yeah ok fair play - but say to your synchros and Anders ...you don't try to 'block' Mr T if you want any bumper left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 I find giving it a "blip" or touch of gas when changing helps smooth out the changes. If i come fully of the gas it gets abit jumpy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KurtB Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 blip the accelerator... going down. heal toe - down blip - up Heal/toeing is blipping isnt it? As you're quickly revving for a split second while dipping the clutch. Bikers call it blipping when they clutch and rev on downshift. I thought the idea was to match the revs with the lower gear/higher revs at a given speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 15, 2010 Share Posted October 15, 2010 Correct. You also don't blip on the upshift unless you hate your clutch, and if you're doing that then you might as well flat shift IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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