350 Russ Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 just been looking on the nissan gb site at the 370 black edition, and it says that it comes with scratch resistant paint. how can this work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 No it will be self healing paint which means it got a semi soft top clearcoat on it that slowly relevels itself if scratched they made a big thing about this on x trails about 4 years ago never did it as far as I know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Apparantly this is the case ^^, not sure how it works but all GT pack have this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 It's just like some self levelling paints like some primers for example they have are quite heavy and take a while to set giving them time to level out any imperfections , capilliary action an surface tension stuff. If you have a White zed and it gets scratched it won't hide the white pigment underneath it just seals itself that it the clearcoat on top. So in theory you will never have a rusty car but any chips will still be visible if the pigment underneath has been chipped away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zugara Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 does that mean that using mechanical polishing equipment would be a "no no"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 does that mean that using mechanical polishing equipment would be a "no no"? Well this 'self healing' stuff is on the GTR I believe and the amount of full details done by rotary on DW would indicate that it's ok to do so. I guess you'd just have to watch heat levels a lot more though. Does the laquer not need to be heated to activate the 'self healing' or something though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I think it's done so above a certain temp it starts to soften and move which is probably only 20degrees I would guess ? I would say it never needs polishing as any scratches will just sink into the paint? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Have a read of this. http://www.autopia.org/forum/profession ... stion.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 If it needs to be warmed up then could you just say boil a kettle and pour it on? If it was washed a few time with a sponge then it would be swirl city Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Personally I can't see this working.As Stew mentioned the amount of GTR's being detailed on DW suggests that it doesn't work and some of the before pics are horrendous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 What happens on a hot sunny day, does the paint run off the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronzee Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 One is assuming here that the owners manual for the 370, would give some detail how to look after the paint as the 350 manual does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK350Z Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 One is assuming here that the owners manual for the 370, would give some detail how to look after the paint as the 350 manual does. I belive the 350 manual says to use a sponge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakersOToole Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Hi, I posted this link in my introduction thread but I believe it might be of use here: http://www.luxury4play.com/detailing/49056-infiniti-g37x-scratch-shield-paint-complete-detail-unique-car-care.html He's a professional detailer, what makes the article interesting is that he is aware that he is working on Scratch Shield and hence hiccups he encounters are of interest. The part where he starts to use rotary polishers on it is particularly useful. There are some images on the net where they show before and after images of Scratch Shield working, some leaving it in sunshine others using a hair dryer or hot water. However from what I can gather from my web crawling it seems to be a one shot material, once the area is scratched if it reflows and is subsequently scratched in the same place again, it won't heal. EZ Sneakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 There doesnt seem to be a lot of info about Scratch Shield, mainly because our main source of info - the US - dont use it much any more, litterally only on the GTR I beleive - the G37S didnt have it after the first model year and Nissan never put it on the 370z out there. Over here, Infiniti do use it on the G37 and Nissan have it on 370z and GTR. It only comes on metallics and pearls. From what I have read, it is an extra resin in the clearcoat which allows the clearcoat to expand slightly. This has restricted movement, so will only cover small scratches to the clearcoat only, if you go through the clearcoat, it wont do anything. Its designed for swirls and very light scratches. Heat activates it (Infiniti confirmed to me that they use heatguns on it), and it pretty much only works once due to the spreading effect having limited movement. Having seen multiple details on it, some have said the paint is a pain as it warms up, swirls go away, it cools and they come back. Others have had more success and have not had this problem, my guess being they use a more agressive compound and generate less heat so cut straight through the clearcoat. Those that work it more, warm it up and get the weird results. Mostly I think going by DW forums, its not hard to deal with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Well it's obvious really get your car down to a tanning centre to warm up the paint and hide the swirls... Simples Oh dear does that mean Nissan are making cars for Chavs now ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted September 26, 2010 Share Posted September 26, 2010 Sounds like a joke, Nissan paint is so thin anyway that it seems like a pointless feature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAYHEW820 Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 The recovery process of Scratchshield will only go as far as surface marring and holograms. Anything more aggressive than this then you will get a regular scratch which can be removed in the normal fashion as per a regular clearcoat paint. Tbh Nissan are overselling this product as a miracle paint and ITS NOT. I can't comment On heat gun treatment so thats maybe where I'm missing out. I found that my scratchshield responded better with higher heat and pressure when being compounded with a Rotary and Menz. Am overjoyed with my correction result Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Sounds like a joke, Nissan paint is so thin anyway that it seems like a pointless feature. +1 My experience of trying to remove a small scratch on the door last summer leads me to agree. Didn't take much at all to go through the clear-coat resulting in an expensive trip to the body shop to get it rectified. Learnt my lesson from that . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 Scratch resistant should = Ventureshield (don't confuse with other completely inferior film). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted January 24, 2013 Share Posted January 24, 2013 i can get hold of a paint that is scratch resistant, you can literally run your key down it and it won't leave a mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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