dcash5 Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Could we review the rules on the forsale section as Im getting a bit of stick from people posting threads and not being approved for several hours whilst i receive several PMs in the mean time and secure a deal? Not sure why it was implimented in the first instance but surely most of the regular members could provide some unofficial policing and report threads that do no comply. Cheers Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I approved yours pretty much as you posted them Dan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattbowey Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 i think this has been asked before, isnt because the initial for sale post has to be approved any subsequent posts to the thread also have to be approved. think someone said it was a problem that was being addressed, i might be wrong though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 From what I have seen and read the 'multi' for sale threads are a mess, so I know it's slightly more work but I would put a thread up for each thing for sale (like rtbiscuit did) then you don't miss 'dibs' and get abuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 From what I have seen and read the 'multi' for sale threads are a mess, so I know it's slightly more work but I would put a thread up for each thing for sale (like rtbiscuit did) then you don't miss 'dibs' and get abuse Easiest way is to do it by first pm gets it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I maybe wrong but i think the prob is an item is posted (approved)for sale at say 5pm,intrested party posts reply at 5.01pm,joe bloggs pm's(no approval needed for pm) and bid and buys at 5.15pm,intrested partys reply post is approved at 5.16 and gets hump that item is sold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcash5 Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 My threads arent that important but 9 replies were approved all at once (one of which was exactly the same scenario as stated above.) Not moaning that people arent putting in the hours, just seems a big un-needed overhead Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I maybe wrong but i think the prob is an item is posted (approved)for sale at say 5pm,intrested party posts reply at 5.01pm,joe bloggs pm's(no approval needed for pm) and bid and buys at 5.15pm,intrested partys reply post is approved at 5.16 and gets hump that item is sold. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cragus Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 I don't know if dcash is referring to me when he says he is getting stick - I hope not. I simply questioned the way 'for sale' threads work now. My understanding was that to make things see through, you had to post on the thread and publicly show you were the first to show interest in an item. At present, I know this means waiting until the first set of posts are authorised and this is not ideal, but I thought this was the temporary fix until a better system is developed. I posted on the thread first and didnt PM you first therefore this time I miss out - I am not enraged or bitter about it that I am going to start giving people stick. I just questioned so I know how to act in future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 As we've said before, the system is in place to protect members until we can put the final approval system in place. It was more of a headache formthe team before the current system was put in place trying to control the spamming and dibs craziness. Unfortunately we do have other day jobs to do so it's been on the back burner. Buyers should always PM the seller and not rely on posts being approved quickly, that depends on who on the team is online at the time. I believe we have covered this before, I'll look to see if we can make mention of it in the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Imo the system works ok,if you want to buy or offer on an item pm your offer.It makes me giggle whenpeople post in general(no approval) judgeing intrest in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcash5 Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 nah wasnt refering you you cragus, just felt sorry for your situation - You're about the 3rd / 4th its happened to though. Chris, not sure how much its protecting the members.... if its an overhead why not just remove it? Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Its serving a purpose until we manage to find something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 A pm is the best way to secure a purchase - if I want something badly enough that is what I do and if I am lucky enough to have the the sellers phone number/email address even better Showing an interest/first dibs etc on the thread realistically means you might not get in first. Posting on the for sale threads also shows to other wannabes your interest so there's a good chance you will lose out. The seller might also have an ad/ads elsewhere Really, the for sale thread should just be used for clarifying matters and it is agreat help when the seller has sold to tell us that so everyone knows Until the software is adjusted to remove the need for posts made after the intial ad (including revisions to the first 'for sale' ad) you now know the best way to secure a purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Chris, not sure how much its protecting the members.... if its an overhead why not just remove it? Its in place to protect the members from spammers who were appearing to make a quick buck. As we've said many times before, its going nowhere. If you want to make a quick sale, this isnt the place, get it on eBay. PMs are the way to communicate and seal the deal, they stop all the dibs, second dibs and persuing arguments of chosing one member over another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jables Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It looks like this old approval system is still in place for FS threads. Maybe I'm following the wrong process but the problem I'm having is numerous PMs from interested parties saying 'why has the FS thread suddenly disappeared?' when I've either made an edit to the first post or submitted a subsequent post. Surely it would be better to allow the thread to remain visible and only show the changes once approved? Or does the forum software the site runs off not allow this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The thread only disapears when you edit the original post. Something which I know you have done a few times. the way the code works, is when you edit the original post it defaults to the point that it thinks the thread is asking for approval. Subsequent posts made by you or a potential buyer do not cause the thread to be hidden. The new posts do not become visable until they are approved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 What I would recommend both sellers and potential buyers do is to 'subscribe to topic' on the thread so that notifications are received when someone posts something (and is cleared). To subscribe, just click on the tab on the left side of the screen immediately above the thread content. So often we see posts on a seller's thread where s/he has not responded and knowing we can all be busy at times and not able to check-in frequrently, at least the notification shows something has been written to then check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jables Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 The thread only disapears when you edit the original post. Something which I know you have done a few times. the way the code works, is when you edit the original post it defaults to the point that it thinks the thread is asking for approval. Subsequent posts made by you or a potential buyer do not cause the thread to be hidden. The new posts do not become visable until they are approved. Ah okay. So if I want to update the title to include 'SOLD' should I request this from a mod? That will make it disappear as well. I've seen threads that get quite messy where the price keeps dropping and new info is added. Buyers then have to scan down through to figure out the current price and any corrections to the description, rather than just seeing all the latest info in the first post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You can edit the original post yourself by all means, nothing to stop you doing that. But the thread will disappear until such time a mod/admin is online to approve the edit. I know it can be a bit of a pain, but we do it this way to best protect buyers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jables Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 You can edit the original post yourself by all means, nothing to stop you doing that. But the thread will disappear until such time a mod/admin is online to approve the edit. I know it can be a bit of a pain, but we do it this way to best protect buyers That's fine, I just wanted to check it was working as expected and that I wasn't being stupid . The confused buyers got me thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
370Ad Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I didn't want to create an extra thread for this but i have been on numerous car forums and this is the first where you use this system. To me it seems really silly. I do understand the 15 post rule to stop spammers/people coming on to make quick buck. But why do you need to approve every post in the thread? Sometimes is takes over 5 hours for the message to be approved, this isn't a dig at the mods as they do this for free/love of the car but it is a dig at the system in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilp Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I didn't want to create an extra thread for this but i have been on numerous car forums and this is the first where you use this system. To me it seems really silly. I do understand the 15 post rule to stop spammers/people coming on to make quick buck. But why do you need to approve every post in the thread? Sometimes is takes over 5 hours for the message to be approved, this isn't a dig at the mods as they do this for free/love of the car but it is a dig at the system in place. It's the programme the site uses. It's to stop spammers postin up for sale threads all over the place without complying to the forum rules. The forum is unable to only make the original post go through the approval procedure with making every post on the same thread do the same, I'm led to believe. Personally I think the system works fine as I usually just pm the seller if want to chat about something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I didn't want to create an extra thread for this but i have been on numerous car forums and this is the first where you use this system. To me it seems really silly. I do understand the 15 post rule to stop spammers/people coming on to make quick buck. But why do you need to approve every post in the thread? Sometimes is takes over 5 hours for the message to be approved, this isn't a dig at the mods as they do this for free/love of the car but it is a dig at the system in place. The system has been in place for a long time now, and has served us well. Including saving the team alot of hassle. You, as the general public, don't see some of the dross we disapprove from for sale threads. Which is why the system is there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
370Ad Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 I didn't want to create an extra thread for this but i have been on numerous car forums and this is the first where you use this system. To me it seems really silly. I do understand the 15 post rule to stop spammers/people coming on to make quick buck. But why do you need to approve every post in the thread? Sometimes is takes over 5 hours for the message to be approved, this isn't a dig at the mods as they do this for free/love of the car but it is a dig at the system in place. It's the programme the site uses. It's to stop spammers postin up for sale threads all over the place without complying to the forum rules. The forum is unable to only make the original post go through the approval procedure with making every post on the same thread do the same, I'm led to believe. Personally I think the system works fine as I usually just pm the seller if want to chat about something O ok that makes sense, i would of thought there was an option to only approve the initial post. I didn't want to create an extra thread for this but i have been on numerous car forums and this is the first where you use this system. To me it seems really silly. I do understand the 15 post rule to stop spammers/people coming on to make quick buck. But why do you need to approve every post in the thread? Sometimes is takes over 5 hours for the message to be approved, this isn't a dig at the mods as they do this for free/love of the car but it is a dig at the system in place. The system has been in place for a long time now, and has served us well. Including saving the team alot of hassle. You, as the general public, don't see some of the dross we disapprove from for sale threads. Which is why the system is there in the first place. Even with the 15 post rule in place? This surprises me Cheers for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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