Burn Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Going to be noobish, but I'm a noob so what can I say. What sort of bits are required to achieve this look... ...because I think that looks about as nice as anything I've seen in a long while. I've done some searching around, but suffering from info overload; rolled arches, air, camber, offset, hellaflush (wtf), stance, spacers... my brain is fried already. Bear in mind, last time I did any tuning of a car it was on a Mk1 Cortina circa 1990. So easily digestible information, in laymans terms, would be greatly appreciated - to get that look, and be usable, what is required? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chippy Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Should be fairly easy..... Definately been lowered and clearly new wheels with spacers (large "washer" that goes between the hub and wheel to push the wheel out further). Bodywork looks standard though. I'm sure someone will be along with suggesting for spacers thicknesses. Haven't a clue what wheels those are, but i'm sure an internet search will find them or something similar. In fact have a look at the Volk RE30 limited editioms - look very similar - 3rd one down on here http://my350z.com/forum/370z-wheels-and-tires/415894-forged-performance-forged-performance-370z-volk-wheel-fitments-are-coming-now.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 18, 2010 Share Posted September 18, 2010 Should be fairly easy..... Definately been lowered and clearly new wheels with spacers. Bodywork looks standard though. I'm sure someone will be along with suggesting for spacers thicknesses. Haven't a clue what wheels those are, but i'm sure an internet search will find them or something similar. In fact have a look at the Volk RE30's - look very similar. How do you know that has spacers fitted? Could just be the right offsets Hellaflush - When the tyre is flush to the wheel arch, requires the right offsets & suspension setup Offset - The offset of a wheel determines how far it sits out or into the arch. The lower an offset the further OUT it will sit, the higher the offset then the further IN it will sit Air - Cars fitted with airbag suspension, allows for a car to be fully slammed. Stance - The way that the wheels & suspension sit against the bodywork. Again the better the setup the better looking stance you have Rolled arches - Pretty straight forward, the lip inside the wheel arch is heated & rolled to run more agressive wheels. Spacers - Spacers will push your wheels out further thus lowering your offset Camber - This is the angle that your wheels sit at - like / \ would be negative camber \ / would be positive camber Think that covers everything I would get pictures to show you each one but I'm lazy, maybe tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 18, 2010 Author Share Posted September 18, 2010 Cheers. Sort of. You've just repeated all of the stuff that made my head hurt!! OK, easier still... Who is going to do this for me? How much will it cost? Will I be able to drive around without leaving bits of 370Z all over the place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schift Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 FYI the wheels are 20-inch SSR MS-1 Fronts are 20 x 9.5 Rears are 20 x 11 Not sure about the offsets, maybe +15? +20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 Cheers. Sort of. You've just repeated all of the stuff that made my head hurt!! OK, easier still... Who is going to do this for me? How much will it cost? Will I be able to drive around without leaving bits of 370Z all over the place? Good place to start is to find out what parts are needed. Personally not a fan of air(suspension) because it would prolly ruin the handling of the car, plus you have to plan for where to put the aircompressor and airlines. You would most likely be looking at coilovers rather than just lowering springs. Might need camber arms replaced so camber can be adjusted more to your liking. Unless you know how to roll arches, that will most likely be a bodyshop job Also consider that you may lose some ride comfort, as the car sits lower it will have less clearance to "bounce" thus suspension will be stiffer to counteract and with bigger wheels come lower profile tyres, which will improve handling a little due to less sidewall flex, but at the same time feel a little harder. So, all in all if you wanted to get this all done you would need to visit a bodyshop and a workshop. So consider labour and parts and prolly little return from a couple of grand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Thanks for all feedback thus far. I think I could easily live with a couple of grand investment (plus additonal cost of wheels etc) if it looked half as sweet as the pic up top of this thread. How usable would it be day to day? I love the 'in the weeds' look, but past experiences are along the lines of Mk1 Escorts, Mk1 Cortinas, both cars that are invariably lowered down to achieve a planted look, but with the wheels safely tucked away underneath. This flush look on the Z, filling up the arches with minimal space between tyre and bodywork, looks like it probably comes with a few compromises attached. The idea of switchable air appeals, raise and lower at will - if you aren't looking for 'track day' handling, or are more interested in aesthetics than dynamic performance, what is the primary downside of trading mechanical suspension for air suspension? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlo Posted September 19, 2010 Share Posted September 19, 2010 not sure how accurate this is in todays market but i looked to put an air setup on my last car (in 2007) and it was circa £2500 including fitting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 This car has coilovers, camber arms and correct offset wheels on it. Very simple, but setup correctly very very effective. As for a daily driver it really depends. There is no requirement for arch rolling on the 370 as they're already rolled. Chose the correct spring rate and offset on wheels so they don't scrape and I don't see any reason not to have a nice daily driver there. Of course if your roads are shocking then you may have to adopt an 'I'm not drunk I'm avoiding potholes' sticker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 I've sent the picture up top to Mark at Abbey, I'm hoping I'll be safer and avoid making costly mistakes by putting myself in their hands. My fear now is that I've gone and got myself an expensive new hobby Maybe I should have leased that Audi A5 diesel after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 It could be just as bad you could have gone for the A5 and got the bug as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibby Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Not really a fan of the 370 but this is one is looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 Not really a fan of the 370 but this is one is looking sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttt! It would look so much better with a nismo bumper - leaving the standard one on does not compliment the look, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted September 25, 2010 Author Share Posted September 25, 2010 To get car planted, but retain some kind of usability, I think these might be an option... http://www.kw-suspensions.co.uk/uk/kw_hls.php ...video on that page demonstrates it perfectly. Nice toy too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted September 25, 2010 Share Posted September 25, 2010 I was just about to say KW do a air lift kit for their coilovers.Be prepared to pay though,I was quoted over 2k to add the kit to the front of my KW3's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattMe Posted September 30, 2010 Share Posted September 30, 2010 One thing evreyone's overlooked: You'll need a red car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 One thing evreyone's overlooked: You'll need a red car. well I chuckled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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