rob d Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Should black be treated any differently ? It may be a stupid question but standing in H*lf*rds staring like a eeedjut at the stuff on the shelves there was a super duper black paint cleaning kit for about 4 million quid. Any thoughts ?? I bought bugger all and ran for it....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyranchers Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 please write again in the queens english if your asking whats best to buy in halfords for a black car i would recommend meguiars claybar kit then autoglym ultra deep shine polish (has some cut and will fill in swirls), followed by autoglym hd wax. get some decent microfibres too to be honest there is much better stuff online rather than going to halfords try cleanyourcar.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 or www.i4detailing.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Black is a difficult colour nto work with, it looks fantastic when you finish but is a pain to keep looking good. I recommend Black hole polish and Supernatural was. You will of course need lots of other bits but these two are great fr a black car. Dont be put off by the price of the supernatural, I know its not cheap but the finish is amazing and a pot will last you a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 thanks guys. I'm off to find some now. Any other hints ? The detailing posts are startling in thier detail and am not quite sure where to start. The Queens English ? I believe her to be a bounteous progenitor of the house of Hanover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 is Black hole polish the stuff by poorboys ? Having trouble finding supernatural was(h) though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jollyranchers Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 i used black hole last weekend , followed by megs 16 wax lovely finish To be honest if you car is badly swirled it doesnt matter what wax or last step product you get , it wont look as good as machine polished swirl free black car. The key is in the preparation, you can either try and fill the swirls with a glaze such as black hole or buy a machine , pads and polish and get rid of the swirls all together think you need to have a good look around www.detailingworld.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 is Black hole polish the stuff by poorboys ? Having trouble finding supernatural was(h) though.... Dodo Juice Supernatural Wax http://www.i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/D ... 0ml_1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Sorry bud I was on my phone and its rubbish. Search my posts for supernatural. It really is amazing and makes the hard work detailing a black car really worth it. It lasts pretty well too. Not sure how much experience you have with the detailing bit. I got mine detailed a few times and just watched. I learnt a hell of a lot and although it cost a bit I think it was money well spent. The detailing traders on here will sort you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothers2901 Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 1. use swirl X to remove all swirls. 2.Meguies paint cleaner 3.meguires polish 4.Meguires carnonara wax Polish with good quality micro fibre cloth. take your time and the results can be excellent Ps Black is the best colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Take care with the paint though. Its pretty thin and easy to damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisS Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 A long way from you but give Carmen a ring at CLB,she knows her stuff. They are traders on here and will be at the Morton in Chirk on Saturday.(Wales 18/19 Sept) http://www.clbvaleting.co.uk/ (for mail order) (think it was them who coverted Martin to Super Natural !!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasso Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Black is a difficult colour nto work with, it looks fantastic when you finish but is a pain to keep looking good. I recommend Black hole polish and Supernatural was. You will of course need lots of other bits but these two are great fr a black car. Dont be put off by the price of the supernatural, I know its not cheap but the finish is amazing and a pot will last you a long time. I've seen martins car after a super natural session at Wales and eve since then I want a black one. I've owned a black car before but the shine on a black zed is literally super natural Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tay Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 1. use swirl X to remove all swirls.2.Meguies paint cleaner 3.meguires polish 4.Meguires carnonara wax Polish with good quality micro fibre cloth. take your time and the results can be excellent Ps Black is the best colour. That looks amazing, makes me want a black car now. Is is the same stuff to get my silver one looking that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 14, 2010 Author Share Posted September 14, 2010 WOW rothers, that is stunning ! I absolutly love my new Z. I know bog all about detailing. I usually some local polish chaps to polish the car - Honda Civic, gone now- and had a spot of luncheon with darling wife. But all that must change to get the Z supery dupery :-) BLimey that supernatural has a super price too.... I might go for the meguires list as detailed above......unless there are further votes ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 14, 2010 Share Posted September 14, 2010 Dodo blue velvet is very good on black too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothers2901 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Dont be fooled though. The Z is an almighty large car to polish by hand. I have invested in a Meguires DA polisher which makes things a lot easier and you dont run the risk of burning the paint as you would with a normal buffing mop. There are lots of new DA's about now, Kestrel and a few others which are reasonably priced and do the same thing but as with all things Meguires are at the front of the detailing game and have done all the R&D (research Development) so have developed the techniques to produce the best results. I used to have a Silver GSI Turbo that got the same treatment and that also looked great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggy Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 1. use swirl X to remove all swirls.2.Meguies paint cleaner 3.meguires polish 4.Meguires carnonara wax Polish with good quality micro fibre cloth. take your time and the results can be excellent Ps Black is the best colour. Sorry to defer from original topic, but is the zed in the pictures (i presume to be yours??) for sale? i'm sure i've seen it on autotrader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 15, 2010 Author Share Posted September 15, 2010 With the meguiars list, what types do you mean ? There seem to be loads out there. Super gold cold spiffo etc What shampoo then paint cleaner etc ??? How do these detailing angle grinders work ? Continous rotation or orbital ? Is it quicker, as much as you suggest ? Thanks for the patience on all the questions, much appreciated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 Getting the right machine is essential, the paint is very easy to damage. There is a full guide to detailing somewhere, I will find it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 There you go. viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rothers2901 Posted September 15, 2010 Share Posted September 15, 2010 The swirl x is a must, theres no point polishing any car without a smooth serface. The Meguires products are part of the 3 step system (google). Yes wash, then wipe dry before doing any detailing and the DA are an orbital system which prevents any burning of the paint. The time saved is worth hours. The z in the pics is mine and unfortunately NOT for sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 19, 2010 Author Share Posted September 19, 2010 Well 5 hours of buffing have got me a fabbo shine. I used the meguiars 3 step stuff but in my local H*lf*ds they didn have the step 3 so bought the gold class stuff instead. Excellent shine and very happy. So now a question on car wash shampoo, I guess that I dont use a wash n wax combo ? To me that would be putting a cheapo wax over the decent stuff I just applied. Or would it make no difference? How long should I leave it before repeating the 3 step treatment again ? I guess that I could just wash it as 'normal' - is this where a speed detail spray is used ??? I will get a photo and post later of current efforts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob d Posted September 20, 2010 Author Share Posted September 20, 2010 bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloodybloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bloody bird has sh*t on my car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 The same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. I had just finished and was stood with a neighbour admiring it. Right over the boot and the seats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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