dyla350z Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Thinking about de-catting,i sure somewhere you could expect between 10-15bhp gains,is this true?I want to keep the sound close to stock,dont mind a bit more db but not loads,anybody no how much louder this set up would be?i know about the mot issue's,any imput will be app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 You won't gain anything like that. This was mine with decats & stock exhaust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 Hard to tell from the vid,its louder,do you notice much in the cabin?have you had it on a dyno? thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 It was louder but that was 4 years ago so I can't remember exactly how much . Never had it dynoed with just that but I did with decats/y-pipe/exhaust/intake/plenum & gained a huge 8hp. Don't believe everything the manufacturers tell you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 I did doubt it but i got 11bhp doing it on my na supra,i got 9bhp on my z with just a plenum spacer & uprev,prob get it done as its quite a cheap mod and easy to reverse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted August 27, 2010 Share Posted August 27, 2010 Decats will make it quite a lot louder. I noticed a significant difference in sound + volume with just HFCs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted August 27, 2010 Author Share Posted August 27, 2010 In to minds now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Androo Posted September 1, 2010 Share Posted September 1, 2010 once you start whipping the silencers/resonators out you'll notice that you just get cheap 'orrible rasp without the right setup to accompany it. That said, above sounds quite nice imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dsapsfo1 Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Am I not right in saying that only the plenum spacer will give any real-world gains, without an ecu re-flash? I thought the ecu would just compensate for any extra flow and therefore negate any gains. Often if it sounds louder though it will feel faster - good old psychology and all that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Often if it sounds louder though it will feel faster - good old psychology and all that..... My car has at least 150 more imaginary bhp with a new exhaust fitted... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted September 3, 2010 Author Share Posted September 3, 2010 Think you need the re-flash to trick the ecu,i had the plenum done at the same time as the flash,re the de-cat i dont want to much noise,i spoke to scott at abbey & im leaving it to there reccomendations,booking it in soon i will post the dyno results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 3, 2010 Share Posted September 3, 2010 Am I not right in saying that only the plenum spacer will give any real-world gains, without an ecu re-flash? I thought the ecu would just compensate for any extra flow and therefore negate any gains. Often if it sounds louder though it will feel faster - good old psychology and all that..... Well on a JDM ECU the pure plenum spacer gave me 9HP (fly!) according to the UK ECU the puter will learn the mod and cancel it out... without a tune it's pointless IMO. Get all your mods done and then hand it in for a tune either with aftermarket EMS or using Uprev from Osiris. A Tune can give you around 10-11hp if I'm not wrong and then whatever other mods you got. I feel that you need to use well matched mods for the engine/exhaust/intake... not something I think that I've managed myself 100% (live and learn) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark@Abbey m/s Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well on a JDM ECU the pure plenum spacer gave me 9HP (fly!) according to the UK ECU the puter will learn the mod and cancel it out... without a tune it's pointless IMO. ALL 350z,s will retune to the air fuel ratio that is in the template in the ECU this is what we tweak when we remap , the JDM is no different to any other 350Z I am afraid. I should know a JDM is my daily driver. I tuned this car, what he hasnt said we have priced to fit decat pipes and a XYZ Y pipe with a race cat , this is the preferred route will tell customers that works and isnt to noisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyla350z Posted September 4, 2010 Author Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well on a JDM ECU the pure plenum spacer gave me 9HP (fly!) according to the UK ECU the puter will learn the mod and cancel it out... without a tune it's pointless IMO. ALL 350z,s will retune to the air fuel ratio that is in the template in the ECU this is what we tweak when we remap , the JDM is no different to any other 350Z I am afraid. I should know a JDM is my daily driver. I tuned this car, what he hasnt said we have priced to fit decat pipes and a XYZ Y pipe with a race cat , this is the preferred route will tell customers that works and isnt to noisy. Mark I spoke to scott last wk & will be going with you and your reccomendations but i never forgot to mention xyz & race cat,you forgot to give me your recs and estimate i posted before the call from scott,will ring you next wk and book it in,thanks garry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted September 4, 2010 Share Posted September 4, 2010 Well on a JDM ECU the pure plenum spacer gave me 9HP (fly!) according to the UK ECU the puter will learn the mod and cancel it out... without a tune it's pointless IMO. ALL 350z,s will retune to the air fuel ratio that is in the template in the ECU this is what we tweak when we remap , the JDM is no different to any other 350Z I am afraid. I should know a JDM is my daily driver. I tuned this car, what he hasnt said we have priced to fit decat pipes and a XYZ Y pipe with a race cat , this is the preferred route will tell customers that works and isnt to noisy. mmm sweet, stand corrected. not sure how I got the number I did with my std ECU when I had a tune done... possibly it was on a "learn" at that stage Out of interest Id more the likely go down the route of needing a Y pipe with race cat in it, can you PM me price and shipping to EIRE? (maybe a photo would be sweet too) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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