Chesterfield Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Stand your ground mate. If the intended prosecution notice only states that the size is incorrect, then they are wrong. very wrong. I suggest they pay this guy a vist too then. Both legal. Tell him to shove it up his arse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 You know the thing that grates me...... 'It's a £30 fine but thats not going to break the bank for someone like you' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 It wont break the overtinme budget for him to actually read up on the law he was enforcing. Or at least attempting to enforce. Actually, id be inclined to go down to the police station with the NIP, and state that you wish to report the crime of attempting to extort money via means of deception or intimidation. He is advising you to pay a fine and abusing his position of authority in an attempt to do so. Its only a few months behind bars, surely not going to break the bank for someone who has as much spare time as this cump... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bounty78 Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 What a thwart! You should maybe get his number down and speak to his superior. Trying to intimidate civilians by breaching his position of trust. Shouldn't he be out reducing crime rates instead of wasting taxpayers' money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 What is the actual charge on the notice Stew. If your plate is the right size you cant comply by changing it. I would take a pic and e-mail it to the local police and ask for a explanation, As for his attitude it annoys the hell out of me. Guys like this do no good for promoting good relations with the police. I still have a letter from out chief constable ripping me up for being cheeky. I was stopped at 4 am on the way back from work. When asked why I was out at this time I said I had been working. The officer said it was a strange time to be working. I replied why, you are. Nasty letter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 Offence code - 318003 - whatever that is???? Offence NAMELY (specify) REGISTRATION PLATE SIZE INCORRECT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Might be worth changing the spacing before you take any pics or start Don't give them a chance to get you on something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Offence code - 318003 - whatever that is???? Offence NAMELY (specify) REGISTRATION PLATE SIZE INCORRECT In that case run with it all the way to court. Sure, they'll probably get you on the mis-spacing, but then they could do that anyway and you won't be any worse off than you are now (remember, they'll have to issue a separate ticket for that offence which they can't mention in court in relation to the current 'offence'). Honestly, don't pay up and don't bother going down the station, take it all the way and wait for the look on his face when the judge/magistrate/sheriff/whatever they have in Scotland rips him a new one for being a complete idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Been doing some googling and found this. A more sensible approach IMO. Whils I was gathering evidence to resolve my own licence plate problem I was advised by a chief Inspector now Chief Superintendent that a FPN is an acceptable response from a policeman it is more normal and recommended by him that a VDRN (vehicle defect rectification notice) is issued, this requires you to take your vehicle for testing at an MOT station and if they declare your plates to be unlawful have them changed. Then present the clearing note from the MOT station to the Police station. Doing it this way solves the problem of the Policeman needing to know the exact regulations or make detailed notes or photograph the plates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted August 25, 2010 Share Posted August 25, 2010 Been doing some googling and found this. A more sensible approach IMO. Whils I was gathering evidence to resolve my own licence plate problem I was advised by a chief Inspector now Chief Superintendent that a FPN is an acceptable response from a policeman it is more normal and recommended by him that a VDRN (vehicle defect rectification notice) is issued, this requires you to take your vehicle for testing at an MOT station and if they declare your plates to be unlawful have them changed. Then present the clearing note from the MOT station to the Police station. Doing it this way solves the problem of the Policeman needing to know the exact regulations or make detailed notes or photograph the plates That's what happened to me a last year and IMO is the correct way to do it ........ get a plate with the 'BS AU 145d' stamp on it and then there's no argument .....it's legal ........ and yes you can get undersized plates that are legal as everyone has said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted August 25, 2010 Author Share Posted August 25, 2010 I have no problem sending away my docs to get a BS plate in the same size. My issue (as it's always been) is him telling me the plate size is illegal when according to the people that make the law it's not. I go away on hols for most of the 28 days. My Mum said she'll look after it though and pay the fine if the advice we receive is to put up and shut up. If not then it's open season. I still want to know how they intend summoning me to court with the wrong name on the form???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 Ok, just an update for those interested. Went to Grampian Police Headquarters today to get the regulations to ensure I confirm to the law when I get the new plates ordered. Surprise, surprise it's the same as the ones myself and others on here have posted up. So I was all chuffed that the idiot bobbie was wrong - Moral victory! At this point I skipped merrily round to Aberdeen Sheriff Court to pay my fine (decided it was far easier to pay £30 and get the t**ser off my back.) I handed over my ticket and they tried to process it. 'Sorry sir, it's not in the system' Well is there anything else I can do? Nope. Superb! I got them to take a copy of the ticket and write down that I attempted to make the payment today. Anyway, called Grampians Finest just now and spoke to someone who checked the computer. She said no crime had been listed against me but another officer wanted a statement about an accident in my works car park.... Anyway, the fixed penalty people will call me tomorrow to tell me what the situation is, I don't want to be chased for non payment of a fine. I've been away but had no messages on mobile or home phones or emails from the copper in question to say anything about it. Also, his 'evidence' that I requested a copy of has never materialised. So a wasted trip into town with parking..... Oh well, just something else to add to my letter of complaint about this orifice that'll be sent to his commanding officer. At the moment I'm very happy that justice has been done (or not as the case is!) and I have to look forward to two calls from officers tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 Coppers suck ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted September 21, 2010 Author Share Posted September 21, 2010 You are correct. So I believe he's either gone through the whole exercise to: A) 'put the sh*ts up me' in which case he's wasted police time. Realised he's wrong so not processed the ticket in which case he's wasted police time. C) Has processed the ticket wrongly in which case he's wasted police time. Anyway I believe this is a victory to me and will gloat on this for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Sounds like he went back to the station and ranted to his mates about you, who then pointed out that he was in the wrong so he didn't enter the ticket in the system. That's a guess though. Either way, nice one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 Told you he wouldn't bother filing it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted September 22, 2010 Author Share Posted September 22, 2010 Told you he wouldn't bother filing it Glad to see my tax pounds at work! You run about making sure kids don't get preggers and drain the state forever (worthwhile) and he runs about in his police car handing out tickets wrongly and then not filing them (not worthwhile!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spursmaddave Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I just noticed on another thread about the original Clarkson review that the Azure import he drove around Sheffield had a 'small' from number plate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I just noticed on another thread about the original Clarkson review that the Azure import he drove around Sheffield had a 'small' from number plate... Aye but that was seven years ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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