Sarnie Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 looked at these a few times, how do nissan look at them being fitted do they invalidate your warranty are nissan happy we are messing with the wiring of the z.max. In addition, you're using existing mounting points which are not currently being used. What is the point of these mounting points? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyC Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Good question mate, but IMO as Spill has already pointed out it was a cost saving exercise by Nissan and as lomoto has said they sell the kits as an extra - so put 2 & 2 together and its to make the fitting of Nissan's aftermarket kits a nice easy job & therefore a better selling item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 And probably a very expensive item too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Kit just fitted - my 2nd mod (after K&N filter ) - very easy install thanks to Spill's fine instructions, took me (completely inept due to presence of short vestigial wings where hands should be) about 45 minutes. Will go for a spin later and see if it feels any different, although having hard the car less than 2 weeks I may not be able to tell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 The biggest problem is if you have just fitted it then you will subconciously be looking for a benifit that may not be there. The best test of these things would be 4 test drives on the same day. 2 with / 2 without but the driver does not know which ones are which and then see the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polarbear Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Had mine on about 3 weeks / 1500 miles now and to be honest I can't spot the difference. P'raps my was well grounded in the first place??? Looks neat and tidy though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Made my own kit from 25mm tri-rated cable and cable lugs and heat shrink sleeving, looks very proffesional as you would expect from a sparky, but i must admit i did not notice any difference but at least i know it is grounded very well as quite frankly the single earthing point from the battery onto the chassis is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Made my own kit from 25mm tri-rated cable and cable lugs and heat shrink sleeving, looks very proffesional as you would expect from a sparky, but i must admit i did not notice any difference but at least i know it is grounded very well as quite frankly the single earthing point from the battery onto the chassis is a joke. I never noticed any difference with mine when I fitteed a set either beavis but agree with you on the flimsy original earth strap mounting point, I dont think they could have found a thinner section of metal to put it to if they had tried Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Im no electrical engineer but if there was a voltage drop issue, would the very thin cable not have got hot or are we talking such minor voltage and hence current values anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hanel Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I fitted Spill's kit a couple of weeks ago. I definately noticed a difference. Firstly with the smoothness of the engine, just didn't sound as rough. It is a very subtle difference and I couldn't say that I still notice the difference. When I initally started the engine I also noticed a difference in the throttle responce. Engine seemed to react quicker when I was reving the engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captint Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I've had mine for quite some time now, but after I installed it I noticed the difference straight away, throttle response slightly improved and definate smoother revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 It all just begs the question where he's gone?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Well I just went out for a sunday morning hoon-aboot - there is definately a difference at low throttle openings, I am able to drive much smoother at low rpm and around town than before - which is what I hoped for.. so I'm happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captint Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 It all just begs the question where he's gone?? Where who's gone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 The biggest problem is if you have just fitted it then you will subconciously be looking for a benifit that may not be there. The best test of these things would be 4 test drives on the same day. 2 with / 2 without but the driver does not know which ones are which and then see the comments. I completely agree. I ve seen similar things happen plenty of times with people noticing improvements when there weren't any (this was with motorcycles dough, stupid example: the suspension setup guy changes the suspension settings by turning some screw 4 clicks to the left, and then 4 clicks to the right again, so nothing was basically changed, but the rider didnt see this, he only knew his suspension was 'tuned'. Out on the track and when coming back: 'wow what a difference, the bike feels much more stable' .... ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 It all just begs the question where he's gone?? Where who's gone? Pete (Spill) - PM'd him a couple of days ago and not heard anything, and he was looking into something for me a few weeks back too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captint Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 Trust me there is a difference, I know every time you do any mod you always hope there's some benefit, and it's especially bad with Z's due to their ecu, but with a grounding kit there is a difference, its never going to rock your world, but it's there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lomoto Posted November 12, 2006 Share Posted November 12, 2006 lots of owners have had no tangible benefit (check out the US forums ,where there has been a lot of debate on these ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 well I can now drive round town without spilling my gin and tonic due to the smoother throttle response at low revs - so although some people may not see any benefit, I certainly do (gin is expensive you know!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captint Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I would normally recommend using a cup holder, but as mine is more of a plastic mouse trap I would't bother Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spill Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 It all just begs the question where he's gone?? :bye: Sorry mate I thought I'd PM'd you You've got mail As pointed out some will some won't personally I believe it's down to how well the ecu is grounded. As for testing now my cars running I will in the next week or so do some tests and post the results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hi Pete! You have order! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlied Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have the grounding kit but have yet to fit it so will let you all know. I could film a before and after or would the difference not be so obvious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I have the grounding kit but have yet to fit it so will let you all know. I could film a before and after or would the difference not be so obvious? Film what exactly? Its how the car feels, which you can't film Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlied Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I have the grounding kit but have yet to fit it so will let you all know. I could film a before and after or would the difference not be so obvious? Film what exactly? Its how the car feels, which you can't film Which could be portrayed with facial expressions... which could be filmed darn it Sandwich!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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